Like, they are making out that if you own a traditional liscence that somehow your entertainment daw (sickening) will be “out of date”. Like we don’t get big fix notifications when we boot up. Honestly f**k you reason studios for peddling this nonsense. It’s literally the worst of it all. What a fal...

Ok, I did some counting of the numbers: Reason 11 Suite is 519 € at Thomann, thats more or less 26 months of subscription to Reason+. If someone is using Reason 2-3 months a year at 20 € per month, it would give them more or less 10 years of Reason + use, for the same amount of money you had to pay...

The seed for this whole mess was planted in a point update, as a marketing plan. isnt that some fall from grace? To see now in hindsight how short sighted the team was. planning this out like wed see the companion and all sit with big kiddie eyes as they make their live stream announcement with cool...

Analogy falls flat. How do you compare the most powerful and successful PM since Thatcher to a failed CEO? Anyway businesses exist solely to make profit. If they are making money they are doing well. If you dont like that model there is freeware and there is open source. wow, some people are really...

i guess hes not only a mobile phone ceo guy and he makes art too... cool guy https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/5d011fc72400008c1785eaca.jpeg?ops=scalefit_630_noupscale VC CEO will crash this company then tiptoe off into another CEO role like nothing happened. It's what they do. They never pay fo...

They literally planned a car crash marketing campaign into your point updates... that should be enough to end them. such a crass and shady scheme. They took you all for kids. what a slap in the face. Oh, and they arent just samples..... they are presets as well..... LOL. god they looked so beaten by...

I say let the market decide. I'm not subscribing myself, but not because I'm on some crusade or anything - it's because it's not for me! The market will "speak" no matter if a few folks boycott or not. The REAL time to not subscribe is when there is no other option. I'll happily move over to Logic ...

Imho you're spot on. I thought the same in regards to the value of hardware and and the role of VC CEOs just a few days ago after reading that Native Instruments sold out. Exactly, I've been watching (and using) Native Instruments just as closely and I knew they were all going to go in this directi...

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27 Jan 2021

Am pretty mad actually., wish I never gave them money to Suite (especially since I was using it as upgrade path when I already own half of their stuff before I bought the suite that worked perfectly fine offline)

yep

like, i have a friend in business school and i will be 100% sending him links to all of this tomorrow as this is one of the most short sighted, cringy business moves of all time. that mobile phone ceo is terrible. i like how he had a keyboard and guitar behind him tho... i guess hes not only a mobil...

The fact they thought that the reason companion "easter egg" would have everyone excited and giving them there money after announcement..... they sat in a room. they planned an update with a greyed out option to get this forum and socials talking, then they had ryan release his "oh my god you caught...

like thay sat in a room and planned that - "oh, well get them all hyped by putting something in with no mention of it and then when they notice we will release this social media announcement......should go down in history, such bad patter. mobile phone ceo guy!! sheesh

Still noone on the fact that they literally planned a marketing point update to set this whole shitstorm off if that isnt enough to arouse suspicion at the intents and mindsets of the mobile phone ceo guy then what will? no one else find that mad.... a planned marketing ploy in an update, this bad.....

Reason+ IS literally more up to date by giving you every new RE as it is released. No, Giles, it isn't. They're letting them rent every new RE they release. That's a big difference, and please stop trying to normalise their behaviour as somehow being for new users' benefit and they're doing them so...

Literally marketed in an update.... Like, someone said "i know! we could put the companion we have been working on in the update but not say anything... then everyone will be speculating, then we will do this social media post where were like "aww you got us!", then well do a live stream with mobile...

Here's the thing, folks... Let's say theoretically that R12 is planned for the summer. Whether R+ is introduced now or not, R12 would still be planned for the summer. If a subscription is not for you, that doesn't change what happens in the summer. If R+ isn't released today, nothing happens today ...

I feel much of this is due to the news R2R cracked wibu.... all of us are paying for it. It will be sub / online only within a year or two. You tried that Crack? Go on, Emotet infrastructure was shut just today, it's safe now 😂 No, really, nothing changed with licensing or protection, it's just eas...

To clarify - Suite is discontinued as a product, but if you bought Suite - you still own a perpetual license and all RE's that came with it , and you will be able to upgrade to "regular" Reason 12 - and take those RE's with you to 12 - once it drops. OK, so basically "nothing to see here, move alon...

I feel much of this is due to the news R2R cracked wibu.... all of us are paying for it. It will be sub / online only within a year or two.

Haha, sorry ive been so passionate. This is a great community, shame the props split it.... i love everyone here and just coming from my own biases and experiences. Mad times! haha. I hope folks find some time to make some music tonight

Those saying its no issue as it is only an option. Listen to the wording. It may be true, but what are their long term intentions? With plus you will always have up to date reason, no worrying yadda yadda. I find this so insulting to my intelligence. Ive been using since v1 and literally have always...

I literally upgraded to suite on the day of release, as a long term user, as i thought i was supporting the company and theyd see us good. HAHA! then they disband suite and launch this. Tell us in the livestream how to use sample packs / preset packs like we are morons. Sad times. Where did you get...

this live stream is not going well, geez I have never seen so many negative comments/dislikes before. This new direction is not for me. I will be staying on Reason 10 with no plans on the current upgrade path. It's basically the same 3-4 folks copy/paste posting "dislike dislike dislike" over and o...

I literally upgraded to suite on the day of release, as a long term user, as i thought i was supporting the company and theyd see us good. HAHA! then they disband suite and launch this. Tell us in the livestream how to use sample packs / preset packs like we are morons. Sad times.

So many comments i picked up on, one though - and i really like and respect matteius. "when you have exhausted the factory soundback.." so buying the liscence outright is a lesser option then, as with suite (which i spent a fortune on) you only get the factory soundbank. They know no one exhausts th...