fine-tuning a device thats bypassed - have we all been there?

[Popey]

Ah I don't think I ever skated any of them. Were these all in Scotland? You must have had better concrete than down my way

Yeah, they built a load of “new towns” and everything was super modern. Concrete abstract art, big shopping centers with novelty clocks. Now they are all empty and the people are gone.
A guy I know mid 80s worked in a skate shop in Glasgow called Clan Skate. Awesome skater and breakdancer. He was on his way to move to Holland to skate professionally. Him and his girlfriend were play fighting with each other and she had one of those compasses for drawing circles. She took a playful swipe at him and caught his eye and pulled out the lens. That fucked up his depth perception and his chances of being then next Tony Hawks.

Clan skates rings a bell, was their logo a cross or similar. perhaps I saw an advert in rad magazine or a sticker somewhere. That sucks about the guys eye and his career. I went all over the UK skating from a young age but too brittle to do it now, kept breaking bones.

[plaamook]

Jesus.
I guess I was fortunate that back in the skate rat days my girlfriend only attacked me playfully w a bowling pin.
Feckin hurt too. She hit me right on the bone of my ankle which swelled up so bad I couldn’t skate for ages.
Though to be fair I was never gonna be the next anything even if she hasn’t.

[EdGrip]

As others have said, it's plain old confirmation bias and it's already well understood. You expect to experience a particular outcome, so you do. Much of the hi-fi industry is built on this.

[Chizmata]

Much of the hi-fi industry is built on this.

what? how? like in making consumers think something is better because its more expensive?

[motuscott]

Much of the hi-fi industry is built on this.

what? how? like in making consumers think something is better because its more expensive?

Have I got some speaker cables for you!

[Chizmata]

what? how? like in making consumers think something is better because its more expensive?

Have I got some speaker cables for you!

aaah that one

[moofi]

One similar perception thing comes to mind. Like when listening to a rhythm and hearing an offset version of it like it doesn´t sound like starting on 1 but let´s say 5 or anything shifted. Happens aswell when just entering a club because it´s where I potentially pick up the rhythm initially. First have to swap that mental perception twist to get it in line again or vice versa.

[motuscott]

Those are the best! I do this all the time when making beats with machines

[EdGrip]

what? how? like in making consumers think something is better because its more expensive?

Have I got some speaker cables for you!

Just what I was going to say!

Remember the golden hi-fi rule - whatever your budget for the entire hi-fi setup, budget at least 10x that amount for cables.

[plaamook]

One similar perception thing comes to mind. Like when listening to a rhythm and hearing an offset version of it like it doesn´t sound like starting on 1 but let´s say 5 or anything shifted. Happens aswell when just entering a club because it´s where I potentially pick up the rhythm initially. First have to swap that mental perception twist to get it in line again or vice versa.

Yeah that’s great. I ocassionally aim for things that easily shift like that. Love it.

[mimidancer]

ok it happened to me and i know it happened to others: you fine-tune a knob until the nuances of the sound are to your liking (preferably on EQ or Comp, but it can be anything), then you realize the thing wasnt even active in the chain. so what did you hear?

i was wondering if the changes arent all imagined but have reasons outside the actual sound. things i can think of:

- actual small shifts in your body like movement of facial muscles might change the way a sound hits your ear drum and therefore really changes what you hear
- shifting your focus mentally in expectation of a sound change may change your subjective impression
-a combination of both

whats your take? does it happen to you? has science actually looked at this phenomenon?

In the end, it is all in your head. I am a pediatrician. When I am examining a patient, I rarely suggest symptoms early in an assessment. It is important to hear a complaint in its entirety from the patient and their parents before one injects other ideas into their minds. If I ask too early my suggestions will be integrated into their chief complaint most of the time. Like them when you see the knob turn you have an expectation. Trust what you hear. Mix with your ears. Your eyes will lie to you. Sorry to ramble. But my opinion is your eyes deceive you.

[moofi]

One of the first songs I created in Reason used changing rhythm perception during the beginning´s build-up where every drum/percussion element added changed the rhythmical appearance until the bassdrum on the actual one set it straight.

One similar perception thing comes to mind. Like when listening to a rhythm and hearing an offset version of it like it doesn´t sound like starting on 1 but let´s say 5 or anything shifted. Happens aswell when just entering a club because it´s where I potentially pick up the rhythm initially. First have to swap that mental perception twist to get it in line again or vice versa.

Yeah that’s great. I ocassionally aim for things that easily shift like that. Love it.