Re: Post a pic of your studio!
Posted: 04 Dec 2021
Thanks! I love them both. No need to explain why as I know you have similar tastes in Roland synths!
Yeah that was a good move, IMHO. Both the System 8's Jupiter 8 Plugout and the JP-08 are both ACB modelled, so the System 8 (with it's actual 8 voices) pretty much covers everything I'd want in a Jupiter 8 (though admittedly, the Jupiter-X does look pretty retro-sweet sexy AF). But, I'm seriously thinking about selling my actual JX-8P and picking up the Boutique JX-08. While I may miss the alpha/numeric display, full keyboard and the PG-800 programmer, the JX-08 has awesome polyphony - up to 20 notes (!!!), and it improves on the original by having a fully featured sequencer, an awesome selection of built-in effects, and 2 part multi-timbral functionality - which is like getting two JX-8P's for the price of one! We'll see - it's currently listed as "on the way" and not in stock. Probably sitting in some shipping container in Miami.
I've long batted back and forth about getting a Model D. People seem to really like it, and a YouTuber I follow (Tefty and Meems) absolutely loves it, and it works well with the Akai MPC and Force (both of which I have). But the thing is, since it's so similar to the Odyssey in sound, I already have an excellent Odyssey emulation on my MPC (and Force), which is Way Out Ware's Odyssey. Its filters just scream and bloop and bleep and it really can sound convincing, plus - I have effects chains, presets and total recall (a major sticking point with the Model D, and most of Behringer's other clones these days).raymondh wrote: ↑31 Jan 2022The Model D sounds quite different to the Sirin, so at this point I think I'll keep 'em both. The Sirin sounds more refined than the D. The Model D actually sounds a lot more like the Odyssey, which isn't too surprising as the Odyssey copied the Moog Ladder filter (in the Rev 2 Ody). I'm enjoying this voyage of discovery!
.. Of course this is all a bit of an experiment when Synapse Audio The Legend is such a great emulation!
Yeah I agree! - the Jupiter X sure is a sweet looking unit!! Much, much nicer than the System 8! But I reckon it's analog emulation is not as good as ACB. ACB is incredible.EnochLight wrote: ↑31 Jan 2022Yeah that was a good move, IMHO. Both the System 8's Jupiter 8 Plugout and the JP-08 are both ACB modelled, so the System 8 (with it's actual 8 voices) pretty much covers everything I'd want in a Jupiter 8 (though admittedly, the Jupiter-X does look pretty retro-sweet sexy AF). But, I'm seriously thinking about selling my actual JX-8P and picking up the Boutique JX-08. While I may miss the alpha/numeric display, full keyboard and the PG-800 programmer, the JX-08 has awesome polyphony - up to 20 notes (!!!), and it improves on the original by having a fully featured sequencer, an awesome selection of built-in effects, and 2 part multi-timbral functionality - which is like getting two JX-8P's for the price of one! We'll see - it's currently listed as "on the way" and not in stock. Probably sitting in some shipping container in Miami.
Thanks for that - I'll check out Tefty and Meems.EnochLight wrote: ↑31 Jan 2022I've long batted back and forth about getting a Model D. People seem to really like it, and a YouTuber I follow (Tefty and Meems) absolutely loves it, and it works well with the Akai MPC and Force (both of which I have). But the thing is, since it's so similar to the Odyssey in sound, I already have an excellent Odyssey emulation on my MPC (and Force), which is Way Out Ware's Odyssey. Its filters just scream and bloop and bleep and it really can sound convincing, plus - I have effects chains, presets and total recall (a major sticking point with the Model D, and most of Behringer's other clones these days).raymondh wrote: ↑31 Jan 2022The Model D sounds quite different to the Sirin, so at this point I think I'll keep 'em both. The Sirin sounds more refined than the D. The Model D actually sounds a lot more like the Odyssey, which isn't too surprising as the Odyssey copied the Moog Ladder filter (in the Rev 2 Ody). I'm enjoying this voyage of discovery!
.. Of course this is all a bit of an experiment when Synapse Audio The Legend is such a great emulation!
But the last monosynth I bought was the Dreadbox Typhon (which is absolutely magical), and I think I'm good for now. That could change, though!
Ooooo - thanks for that video link! And yeah, I've read that the Zencore stuff isn't nearly as accurate as ACB. But what you trade off in accuracy, you get with more features. Eh, not like I'll be picking up a Jupiter-X anytime soon - my spouse may leave me if I drop $2800 USD on a synth!raymondh wrote: ↑31 Jan 2022Yeah I agree! - the Jupiter X sure is a sweet looking unit!! Much, much nicer than the System 8! But I reckon it's analog emulation is not as good as ACB. ACB is incredible.
The JX-08 is interesting! I wish they could have included separate ADSR for env 1 and env 2, though I understand it wouldn't have fitted. The polyphony is great as you say. Here's an interesting view from Espen Kraft:
They're "ok". Some are very MPC+Model D focused, but balanced opinions on the gear (they also branch out into other hardware). It's usually Tefty making jams while Meems sings over them (her voice is ok, but only recently they started doing ambient which I prefer over their "pop" stuff).
That's a really great point - there's something about tweaking those hardware sliders and pots - it's just so inspiring! I just wish we could save patches/presets.
Yeah, it really has become one of my favorite synths just to tweak and toy around with. And it's so portable, it's nice just sitting in bed with a pair of cans and playing with it while the spouse reads a book. Travels well also!
Wow - that's cool. I've been mulling back and forth about getting a Behringer ADA8200 ADAT as well (to pair with my RME Babyface Pro).raymondh wrote: ↑31 Jan 2022One other change I made that may be of interest; I bought a Behringer ADA8200 ADAT interface, to get an extra 8 inputs, connected to my Focusrite Scarlett 18i8.
Mixed feelings at the moment. On the plus-side - when it works, it's brilliant. Sound is excellent, just as good to me as the Focusrite inputs, and it works seamlessly.
Downside is it's making my 18i8 cranky. Not Behringer's fault, the problem will be the drivers/mix-control software for my 1st gen 18i8. I haven't figured out the use cases that cause the mix-control software to hang yet (so I can avoid them), but it's been problematic. I'm hopeful that I can get it sorted, and then it will be a better solution than using sub-mixers feeding into the 18i8 inputs.
I’ll bite.. how does sitting on the floor, presumably with your legs crossed and your back hunched, become better for your posture? I mean - that’s cool you found a solution though.DJMaytag wrote: ↑10 Jun 2022Recently reconfigured my studio for all floor sitting, due to some issues I'd been having sitting in chairs for entirely too long (back and leg tightness). I have a hell of a lot more stamina for sitting in front of my computer now with it all set so low down. I thought I might have been nuts for doing this
Shifting positions regularly keeps from getting sore. When I’m changing position every 15 minutes or so, I’m engaging muscles that would otherwise not be doing much while sitting in a chair (and I do have a nice comfy one). I’m not just sitting on my butt all the time (kneeling, yoga poses, sometimes laying down on my back when just listening, etc).EnochLight wrote: ↑11 Jun 2022I’ll bite.. how does sitting on the floor, presumably with your legs crossed and your back hunched, become better for your posture? I mean - that’s cool you found a solution though.
Cool, cool. I'm not averse to sitting on the floor (or "Indian-style" for that matter, if it's still acceptable to use that term). My studio is in a basement with a single layer of carpet over a cold basement floor, though, so I'm not sure I'm going to try this method for the entire studio. But I can always sit in the floor with my MPC Live II since it's so portable. Thanks for the tip!DJMaytag wrote: ↑11 Jun 2022EDIT: I’m nearly 50 years old, and have been dealing with back pain since my mid 20’s. On top of that, I had a career ending on-the-job back injury in my early 30’s, so everything I’m doing with sitting on the floor as much as possible or is completely counterintuitive. “My knees couldn’t handle doing that!” is a common thing I hear (especially from people my age), but after doing it for a while, my knees adapted pretty quickly and I gained the strength and flexibility to get up and down with minimal effort.