Would Mozart kill somone to get Reason?

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I think I am a lucky guy to own a setup like I do. My neighbour thinks my studio is actually some kind of amateur thing, but I disagree that I can't make a PRO quality tune in here. :cool:

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03 Feb 2016

Mozart would probably have regarded Reason as witchcraft. But you don't have to go that far back.

Think of the Beatles, recording their first album on a highly-expensive four-track tape machine, getting reverb effects by setting up speakers and mics around physical pipes in the studio. Sure, Paul McCartney today probably has a studio that beats anything we have on our desktops all silly, but even an amateur today has access to resources that were once only possible by spending millions of dollars.

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deepndark wrote:I think I am a lucky guy to own a setup like I do. My neighbour thinks my studio is actually some kind of amateur thing, but I disagree that I can't make a PRO quality tune in here. :cool:
I got a good Pro setup myself , Reason 7 , a computer with a internal 5400 rpm speed and a few volcas :lol:

a yhea biggest part of my studio is a vt-3 LOL


still i would not mind a SSL full mixing board and a few real synths :D
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@ platzangst: Indeed, I think that McCartney has better tools we have, but we are so close to do the same with Reason as what he does with his gear. I would actually invest to get a better preamp + mic than buying a hardware reverb.

@ CharlyCharlzz: I would also want a hardware synth, just to have more knowhow about hardware. But, Antidote and some other softsynths are already brilliant enough. I even think that reason's first synth subtractor can sound good.

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deepndark wrote: @ CharlyCharlzz: I would also want a hardware synth, just to have more knowhow about hardware. But, Antidote and some other softsynths are already brilliant enough. I even think that reason's first synth subtractor can sound good.

I got a few Volcas and they are not bad at all , I got a minibrute and that is awesome .

I dont buy anymore synths to keep but I love to buy new stuff , try it out and sell it after a couple of months and see the money lost as the price for a rental haha .

that way I can try things out , i usely never buy something more expensive then 500 bucks and sell it after two or three months for 420 bucks or something , it' s like I rented a new synth for 40 bucks a month that way :D

if the synth was already a 2nd hand I sometimes sell it for more then I buyed it for ....
It does not die , it multiplies !

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CharlyCharlzz wrote:
deepndark wrote: @ CharlyCharlzz: I would also want a hardware synth, just to have more knowhow about hardware. But, Antidote and some other softsynths are already brilliant enough. I even think that reason's first synth subtractor can sound good.

I got a few Volcas and they are not bad at all , I got a minibrute and that is awesome .

I dont buy anymore synths to keep but I love to buy new stuff , try it out and sell it after a couple of months and see the money lost as the price for a rental haha .

that way I can try things out , i usely never buy something more expensive then 500 bucks and sell it after two or three months for 420 bucks or something , it' s like I rented a new synth for 40 bucks a month that way :D

if the synth was already a 2nd hand I sometimes sell it for more then I buyed it for ....
Cool - I can't bother doing that, but I would like to try something out that is known to impress musicians.
If someone would rent me mastering compressor I might try it out tho. :redface:

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03 Feb 2016

No, but he might kill someone who uses autotune.

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Mozart would look down on these scrubs who can neither read notation nor play a 45 minute song in one take :D

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I rather like the question "what kind of music he would produce with todays' tools"?
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Loque wrote:I rather like the question "what kind of music he would produce with todays' tools"?
Maybe Amadeus can help?


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No.

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platzangst wrote:Think of the Beatles, recording their first album on a highly-expensive four-track tape machine, getting reverb effects by setting up speakers and mics around physical pipes in the studio. Sure, Paul McCartney today probably has a studio that beats anything we have on our desktops all silly, but even an amateur today has access to resources that were once only possible by spending millions of dollars.
It really is nothing short of miraculous

From the mid-80s all the way through the 90s I was playing in bands, enjoying having a musical outlet but constantly frustrated by gear issues and band member issues and never being able to even remotely afford the means to make the kind of music I was imagining in my head. Now I can have a multi-million dollar studio on my laptop and there really are no limits. Which is why I always laugh when people throw screaming tantrums about the various shortcomings of Reason or other DAWs, as though their creativity is being outrageously compromised. They don't fucking know they're alive

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04 Feb 2016

Yeah, if I could come up with one tune as good as say, Yer Blues, I could record it very well with what I have. And then I'd rule.

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gak wrote:No, but he might kill someone who uses autotune.
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Hell, I would kill Mozart to have Reason.

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Mozart could write entire symphonic arrangements without playing or hearing a single note, so he would not have to resort to the taking of a life to capture his ideas properly. Reason (or any other software) can be the basis of a pro studio, provided someone is compensated for the use of the studio and the content created in said studio is sold for commercial or professional use. In truth, its not equipment (in and of itself) that makes a studio professional, but the people operating the equipment. To quote a soon to be classic tv show "Giving Slipping Jimmy a law license is like giving a chimp a machine gun." Killer rigs don't make you a muscian, but killer chops do."

"Boards don't hit back."

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Noplan wrote:
gak wrote:No, but he might kill someone who uses autotune.
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Sure he is. Texted me right after I posted it.

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04 Feb 2016

if your buddy cant make a decent sounding tune on reason he should just quit

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dvdrtldg wrote:Now I can have a multi-million dollar studio on my laptop and there really are no limits. Which is why I always laugh when people throw screaming tantrums about the various shortcomings of Reason or other DAWs, as though their creativity is being outrageously compromised. They don't fucking know they're alive
The reason people scream that the DAW is destroying their creativity is because they are either lacking in creativity in the first place, or far more likely, too scared to be creative and finding excuses in anything and anyone but themselves.

http://benedictroffmarsh.com/2015/05/05 ... o-succeed/

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04 Feb 2016

@ Benedict "Imagination is more important than knowledge, as knowledge is limited" A.Einstein

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4filegate wrote:@ Benedict "Imagination is more important than knowledge, as knowledge is limited" A.Einstein
So long as people don't use that as an excuse to make up their own facts ;)

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Benedict wrote:
4filegate wrote:@ Benedict "Imagination is more important than knowledge, as knowledge is limited" A.Einstein
So long as people don't use that as an excuse to make up their own facts ;)
of course „Digital Natives“ generation - ... mask, and he will tell you the truth. :think:

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Hmm, when people being up the gear used in the past; I double dare you to produce something of that quality today?

Watching the James Brown biopic was do telling of this as the music in the earlier parts of the film were difficult to listen to with those lower quality recordings.

Another good characteristic is outcome orientation and willingness to bend the rules to work with what you have. Don't have the sound you want, that's cool, make the most use of what you've got and make it sound like fire. Sounds simple and still you find so many pulling the brakes.

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