Panning Parallel Channels?

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Sprockhead
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27 Aug 2016

So.. I have a question (drum roll).

Let's say I have a vocal and I create a parallel channel of it. Put a Chorus effect on the parallel and detune it with Neptune.
If I pan the parallel channel hard left or hard right would that interfere with the original vocal track in the centre? Any phase issues I don't know about that could occur?

Is it a good idea or am I begging for trouble?

I was thinking that the parallel track got a lot of effects so it wouldn't sound like the original vocal track, but then again it's still really the same vocal track twice, panned differently.

Is there anybody that here that could fill me in on it? :)

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bxbrkrz
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27 Aug 2016

Bus all the vocal channels (original and parallel) to a new channel. Turn the stereo width knob down (slowly?) to zero. Use your ears and listen closely to any artifacts and elements you like, or do not want.
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27 Aug 2016

Sprockhead wrote:So.. I have a question (drum roll).

Let's say I have a vocal and I create a parallel channel of it. Put a Chorus effect on the parallel and detune it with Neptune.
If I pan the parallel channel hard left or hard right would that interfere with the original vocal track in the centre? Any phase issues I don't know about that could occur?

Is it a good idea or am I begging for trouble?

I was thinking that the parallel track got a lot of effects so it wouldn't sound like the original vocal track, but then again it's still really the same vocal track twice, panned differently.

Is there anybody that here that could fill me in on it? :)
It would be exactly the same as using a send and panning the return.

Depending on the effect (and the level of the effect in the mix) you would have a vocal that would be perceived to be coming more from one side than the center.

This would be something to do when you WANT to offset the vocal away from center to some degree.

What is more common in my experience is to pan the "dry" signal towards one side and the "wet" signal towards the other, and sometimes you'll do the opposite panning for a similar track for stereo "balance".
:)
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Sprockhead
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27 Aug 2016

Thanks for all the answers!

The thing I wanted to do in the track is just to add this synthetic sci-fi voice in the left ear, singing the same phrase as the original lead vocal that's in the centre. Would it be more effective to just use a different vocal take, insert all these effects, and pan it hard left? Would it have any advantages next to just panning the parallel of the original take?

Sorry if I'm slow here. I'm just trying to get my head around this, trying to get better at vocal processing :D

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Sprockhead wrote:Thanks for all the answers!

The thing I wanted to do in the track is just to add this synthetic sci-fi voice in the left ear, singing the same phrase as the original lead vocal that's in the centre. Would it be more effective to just use a different vocal take, insert all these effects, and pan it hard left? Would it have any advantages next to just panning the parallel of the original take?

Sorry if I'm slow here. I'm just trying to get my head around this, trying to get better at vocal processing :D
It's a subjective thing, but by the way you described the effect it would be a good idea IMO to at least try doing this as an overdub and panning it. You will probably sing it differently to aid in creating the effect, which in my experience will get you closer to the desired effect in the end. I always try to get the desired effect as much at the source as possible, though there are also some examples where I got the desired effect from processors alone.

It's "free to try", as my GF always reminds me…
:)
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27 Aug 2016

Thanks for your input, I'll try the method with the overdub :)
Ha, that's right!
And with that said, I'll put my mad scientist robe on and return to work :D

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