Do you use the 14:2 mixer?

[stratatonic]

Does anyone use the 14:2 mixer anymore? A thread here about a headphone mix brought up a post using the 14:2

I can't remember the last time I used one in a project. Any combinator that I create makes use of the 6:2 mixer - which is plenty.

Is anyone using the 14:2 ?

What are you doing with it?

[dioxide]

It has a few advantages. It has 4 sends and also it has more CV inputs on the back. So you can use it as a CV controlled gate for instance. Generally I don't use it much these days though, it is mainly present in patches and legacy stuff for things like EQ and multiple sends.

[K.Markov]

yes, in combinator with boom 808

[dvdrtldg]

If I'm building something in a combinator and I think things are likely to get complicated, then I'll use a 14:2 because of the four aux send/returns. Gives more flexibility with FX - although at the same time, this is the scenario where I always find myself wishing there were more combi CV inputs

Otherwise, I stick to the 6:2

[Creativemind]

No, I use the 14:2 Line Mixer

[chimp_spanner]

It still has its place. Sometimes I like to use Reason with limitations, as though I only had a finite amount of real hardware (and rack space!). So the 14:2 mixer is really cool for setting up smaller projects. But I guess it's a preference thing as much as anything else!

[talex]

Big yes. I'll be using the 14:2 in the combinator until they create a Nano SSL system that will drop in the combo and flip for routing.

[Vyckeil]

I always use it when I create a combinator.

[jonheal]

I always use it when I create a combinator.

Same here.

[FlowerSoldier]

Big yes. I'll be using the 14:2 in the combinator until they create a Nano SSL system that will drop in the combo and flip for routing.

Dang it. That's brilliant. It could even collapse/expand like the Thor programmer. This could be a Thing. Any RE devs agree?

[Raveshaper]

If I'm making a sound that contains a lot of layers and I want to keep my main mix uncluttered, I use a 14:2 instead of lots of SSL channels.
I have found that the SSL channels consume much more processor than the rack-based mixers do, which is another reason for doing this.

[stratatonic]

It has a few advantages. It has 4 sends and also it has more CV inputs on the back. So you can use it as a CV controlled gate for instance. Generally I don't use it much these days though, it is mainly present in patches and legacy stuff for things like EQ and multiple sends.

If I'm building something in a combinator and I think things are likely to get complicated, then I'll use a 14:2 because of the four aux send/returns. Gives more flexibility with FX - although at the same time, this is the scenario where I always find myself wishing there were more combi CV inputs

Yes, good point about the extra sends. I had been planning to make a multi FX combinator a few years back for guitar - I should revisit that maybe.
The CV inputs as well. I recall some crazy ass combinators with bizarre CV routing way back when!

I wonder if there would be a market for an RE line mixer that could be compact, but still have a ton of CV and send/returns and EQs...what options could possibly go in such a device?

[chimp_spanner]

I'd personally get a lot of use out of an SSL style "sub mixer" that I could use to group and mix 4-8 instruments on. If it could even look like the SSL that'd be nice. Some quick and dirty two knob fx like a compressor and gate, maybe reverb and delay built in. Full CV control of parameters. MIDI in for muting/soloing/latching channels. That'd be awesome!

[stratatonic]

Big yes. I'll be using the 14:2 in the combinator until they create a Nano SSL system that will drop in the combo and flip for routing.

Dang it. That's brilliant. It could even collapse/expand like the Thor programmer. This could be a Thing. Any RE devs agree?

A collapsable Nano SSL!

I'd personally get a lot of use out of an SSL style "sub mixer" that I could use to group and mix 4-8 instruments on. If it could even look like the SSL that'd be nice. Some quick and dirty two knob fx like a compressor and gate, maybe reverb and delay built in. Full CV control of parameters. MIDI in for muting/soloing/latching channels. That'd be awesome!

That sounds like a great idea - never thought about comps and gates in the mixer itself. Any dev out there listening? Could even swap out comp, EQ, rev modules (somehow...)

[Data_Shrine]

I like to use it in a combinator, especially with ReDrum and the various sends.

[QVprod]

Rarely, but useful when on occasion where I want multiple send fx in a combinator patch. Otherwise, the line mixer is plenty for most things.

[gak]

Where it's the most useful to me, is drums. Yeah, that concept is put forward by "BFD CORE" etc, but that is where it shines the most.

In the "reason" world, it's necessary. Sure, I'd rather see the integration with the "SSL" mixer better, but it's not likely to happen.

[Redster]

I use it as a permanent patchbay in my default template to the hardware outputs so I can quickly direct out any channel strip to external hardware or other software for processing, and have independent control of the level in and out. I sandwich it between two Selig Gains to monitor in and out levels and keep them consistent.

[michal22]

Yes, I use it all the time. Mainly in combinators.

[Abstrax]

I use it in every combinator. Which in turn means every sound. There are so many upsides to it.

New instruments are auto-routed to the mixer in combinators. Faders with visual LEDs. Pan and Volume CVs. The broad band EQ section. I use the master volume for sidechain automation. You can always turn a stereo signal into a dual mono setup by giving each cable its own channel, hard panning left and right, then turning the fader down to 79.

Most importantly, 4 FX sends (1 w/ prefader send). There are a lot of possibilities with the sends because they can be sent to other sends as well. The way to do this is to go from a Send out --> to FX device --> to open 14:2 mixer channel. This of course applies to SSL routing. If you are aren't using all of the sends, dont forget that they are also signal splitters.

[stratatonic]

I use it as a permanent patchbay in my default template to the hardware outputs so I can quickly direct out any channel strip to external hardware or other software for processing, and have independent control of the level in and out. I sandwich it between two Selig Gains to monitor in and out levels and keep them consistent.

o_0!! Mind Blown...

I use it in every combinator. Which in turn means every sound. There are so many upsides to it.

New instruments are auto-routed to the mixer in combinators. Faders with visual LEDs. Pan and Volume CVs. The broad band EQ section. I use the master volume for sidechain automation. You can always turn a stereo signal into a dual mono setup by giving each cable its own channel, hard panning left and right, then turning the fader down to 79.

Most importantly, 4 FX sends (1 w/ prefader send). There are a lot of possibilities with the sends because they can be sent to other sends as well. The way to do this is to go from a Send out --> to FX device --> to open 14:2 mixer channel. This of course applies to SSL routing. If you are aren't using all of the sends, dont forget that they are also signal splitters.

And again!...great input.

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I will be revisiting the 14:2 first off for a drum bus like quite a few posters here have said. It's a pain in the butt to adjust volume on all the Pads on Kong by clicking the pad, and then adjusting the volume, then clicking another pad, adjusting, etc etc. Having a Kong all ready mapped out to a mixer in a combinator will save a boatload of time setting levels. Mapping a Kong to the SSL in a template just uses up way too many SSL channels - channels that cannot be collapsed currently. And using an RV7000 instead of the Kong reverb will be nice as well...

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Revisiting the Mixer RE - if it were ever to happen - it would also be nice to have inserts as well as sends, as well as all the other cool stuff mentioned above.