Anyone ever think of a possible Reason PRO?

[deepndark]

I have been thinking. Reason PRO - some of you propably would ask, isn't it PRO already? But yeah, if this version would make things better soundwise by taking out all the shit, that is in Reason right now and updating what is already there .... maybe ... it would be worth to do?

The Reason & Record worked so well when it was there, because it was limited. Now I have so much more because of the REs. I am really close sometimes, when I feel "this rocks" but I feel like Reason doesn't make it easy to make a sound I'm after. You?

[Deep Schulzz]

Does this mean you want less features for a Pro Version?

https://soundcloud.com/deep-schulzz

[deepndark]

Does this mean you want less features for a Pro Version?

https://soundcloud.com/deep-schulzz

Kind of, if the choices would be the maximum quality, why to bother with all the shit?

[deepndark]

Malström 2 as example should let us load samples - and already introduce us 1000 killer graintables.

[deepndark]

I don't care about the so called "Retro Emulations" but the nowdays sound. Maybe also updating the filters etc.??

[esselfortium]

I think you spend too much time thinking about this.

[deepndark]

I think you spend too much time thinking about this.

Oh - really, kind of like "your limiters are your attitude to use Reason" ??

[esselfortium]

You've been posting basically the same thread every few weeks since the PUF days. If you still don't think Reason is """pro""" enough after all this time, nothing that anyone can say or do would ever convince you. Just use something else that works how you want it to. This is nonsense.

[selig]

I don't know if it's "nonsense" or not, but given Propellerhead's track record it may be "folly" to think this could ever happen. They can barely keep up with the basic feature set IMO - how are they going to spin off a completely second "pro" version without SIGNIFICANT additional resources? How would they ever recoup on that investment considering how "pros" currently look at Reason?

They would have better luck introducing an entirely new product, then later integrating it with Reason (!) than the other way around (creating a spinoff of Reason). And we all know how that turned out last time around…

[joeyluck]

We have Reason Pro already. It's called Reason. The non-pro version is Reason Essentials

[deepndark]

We have Reason Pro already. It's called Reason. The non-pro version is Reason Essentials

Post your PRO music then.

[dan_g]

I think the daw doesent make pro music. Its the User and his knowledge.

[esselfortium]

We have Reason Pro already. It's called Reason. The non-pro version is Reason Essentials

Post your PRO music then.

What does "PRO music" mean to you, specifically?

Does it need to be registered with a PRO?

[deepndark]

We have Reason Pro already. It's called Reason. The non-pro version is Reason Essentials

Post your PRO music then.

What does "PRO music" mean to you, specifically?

Does it need to be registered with a PRO?

i'm pretty good at minxing but comparing music with the RPOs like The Crystal Method or Hybrid never sounds like that. Remember when Liam Howlett from Prodigy said "Reason doesn't sound as good as the other DAWs. I actually agree!

[esselfortium]

So... you're saying that because your music doesn't sound like experts, the tool is flawed? How is that anyone's fault but yours?

I mean, if that were really the case and Reason was the only thing holding you back, wouldn't there be tons of amateurs with amazing multi-million-dollar bedroom productions on every other DAW forum? Or is it just you who would be good enough if only the Reason sound wasn't cruelly holding you back from the stardom you deserve?

[deepndark]

So... you're saying that because your music doesn't sound like experts, the tool is flawed? How is that anyone's fault but yours?

I mean, if that were really the case and Reason was the only thing holding you back, wouldn't there be tons of amateurs with amazing multi-million-dollar bedroom productions on every other DAW forum? Or is it just you who would be good enough if only the Reason sound wasn't cruelly holding you back from the stardom you deserve?

I have listened reason music since 2001 and i have never been as wowed as I would like to. My skills are actually not that bad and my opinion should really have more value than somone just starting out.

[esselfortium]

So... you're saying that because your music doesn't sound like experts, the tool is flawed? How is that anyone's fault but yours?

I mean, if that were really the case and Reason was the only thing holding you back, wouldn't there be tons of amateurs with amazing multi-million-dollar bedroom productions on every other DAW forum? Or is it just you who would be good enough if only the Reason sound wasn't cruelly holding you back from the stardom you deserve?

I have listened reason music since 2001 and i have never been as wowed as I would like to. My skills are actually not that bad and my opinion should really have more value than somone just starting out.

If, as you say, you've been listening to music produced in Reason since 2001 and are still not satisfied with anything you've heard, I don't know why you would still be using Reason. So, I actually don't believe you. I don't think you actually believe that any new feature in Reason 9, 10, or 20 could give you the magic bullet that would allow you to produce for Ke$ha and Justin Timberlake. You just like to complain. And so every month or so, you post your complaint again, in the hopes that someone will agree with you so that you can continue to blame your own shortcomings (whether perceived or real) on someone else. It's more comforting to complain about something that's out of your control, right?

Because let's be honest here. If you truly believed that Reason was why you haven't achieved stardom yet, you wouldn't still be using it after a decade and a half of complaints. You would have moved on a long time ago. I mean, at this point why wouldn't you be using a more "pro" tool that makes you sound better?

[deepndark]

So... you're saying that because your music doesn't sound like experts, the tool is flawed? How is that anyone's fault but yours?

I mean, if that were really the case and Reason was the only thing holding you back, wouldn't there be tons of amateurs with amazing multi-million-dollar bedroom productions on every other DAW forum? Or is it just you who would be good enough if only the Reason sound wasn't cruelly holding you back from the stardom you deserve?

I have listened reason music since 2001 and i have never been as wowed as I would like to. My skills are actually not that bad and my opinion should really have more value than somone just starting out.

If, as you say, you've been listening to music produced in Reason since 2001 and are still not satisfied with anything you've heard, I don't know why you would still be using Reason. So, I actually don't believe you. I don't think you actually believe that any new feature in Reason 9, 10, or 20 could give you the magic bullet that would allow you to produce for Ke$ha and Justin Timberlake. You just like to complain. And so every month or so, you post your complaint again, in the hopes that someone will agree with you so that you can continue to blame your own shortcomings (whether perceived or real) on someone else. It's more comforting to complain about something that's out of your control, right?

Because let's be honest here. If you truly believed that Reason was why you haven't achieved stardom yet, you wouldn't still be using it after a decade and a half of complaints. You would have moved on a long time ago. I mean, at this point why wouldn't you be using a more "pro" tool that makes you sound better?

The Reason "quality" has been discussed millions times over the net already, which proves that there's something about it. I have been thinking to leave Reason many times and i may do that soon. I have trialed FL Studio and I liked how i sounded tbh. The "follow unperfections" was gone. And the reason why I have been using Reason was believeing it was because of me. Another reason, that some day I could put my finger on my own creations by using Reason. It never happened.

[odarmonix]

Remember when Liam Howlett from Prodigy said "Reason doesn't sound as good as the other DAWs. I actually agree!

Remember when Liam made this silly statement ? Unsurprisingly not long after the release of AONO. The "inferior audio engine" myth is the only excuse he could find to avoid blaming himself for what is widely considered Prodigy's worst album.

[deepndark]

Remember when Liam Howlett from Prodigy said "Reason doesn't sound as good as the other DAWs. I actually agree!

Remember when Liam made this silly statement ? Unsurprisingly not long after the release of AONO. The "inferior audio engine" myth is the only excuse he could find to avoid blaming himself for what is widely considered Prodigy's worst album.

Sorry but the sound of AONO was shit because of Reason. The music is actually good but the sound not as much. This album was better than the latest one they pushed out this year.

[Creativemind]

I kind of agree and disagree at the same time. I think Reason sounds lacking sometimes but I'm no pro. Sometimes it can sound awesome though. It has the pro-tential (see what I did there) to be the best DAW on the market though.

deepndark is right. I think sample loading pr a Malstrom 2 with sample loading would improve its power vastly.

[chimp_spanner]

The old "Reason sound" argument! I remember those threads! I recently moved one of the projects I'm working on over to Reason. The other people in the project with me have noticed an improvement in the sound over Cubase 8 immediately. Fatter, warmer, punchier. I'm not gonna argue with them if they dig it. So do I!

I've also made two Kontakt based sound FX products now, with everything generated from scratch within Reason and then mapped into Kontakt patches afterwards. We've got some top-tier sound designers and composers buying and loving these packs. Certainly no comments about the sound not being "pro" enough, whatever that means!

Of course I still use Cubase 8 for some things; mostly my Metal projects as I need access to Superior Drummer and my amp sims. I spend about 50% of my time in each. At the moment I definitely prefer working in Reason. I find it easier to get certain types of sound with it anyway! Of course, your results may vary. But I think the suggestion that Reason is inherently incapable of producing a good or professional sound is a little unwarranted.

[deepndark]

The Reason PRO is a valid suggestion, but I think It's me going for a certain sound that I don't like at the end. Why I go for that sound, - I don't know really.

[chimp_spanner]

Just out of interest what is that sound? And do you have any examples that you feel show what's lacking? Perhaps a reference sound or an example of the kind of thing you're after would be good too

[nooomy]

https://www.propellerheads.se/blog/music-talk-super-flu

These guys are very pro...


I got 25-30 songs signed at labels all around the globe, all songs made in reason.

just learn how to produce and stop blaming the program