Clipping? "Don't worry bout it".
Posted: 21 Feb 2016
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It is a bit much, lol. Just scroll down until you don't see it anymore.Spryx wrote:i'd love to read this...but man, that gif....
Apples to oranges, my friend. IMO, of course!Stranger. wrote:
Here's why--
With audio we use what's considered a zero point -0db-.
Since ason is using 32bfp channel mixing and 64bfp summing at the master section,this allows overs...lots of overs (over 0db.)
So,what does that mean to most people?? probably not much,but using 32/64bit is quite different than 24bit.
Try this for yourself..
1.Make a mix,or a cunningly created song/track/piece of music.. label it what you like....
2.Make that mix/song lovely creation- have a highest peak at 0db. All's good,dayym yr pretty good,but it's not over.. yet.
3.(Turn down master fader,or unplug IO from back before you do this next step if your playing it back!!)
Now add gain..as much clip gain,input gain,and fader and master gain as allowed on the mixer,and audio clip/s,so all your meters are "going through the roof!! clipping like crayazeeeeee!!!! NOOOOOOOOOOO! " . Do it.
4.Make another audio track,set master section to be recorded,and bounce master section.
5.Focus on this track-mute everything else.
6.Audio should* look a scrambled clipping' mess..but here's where clip levels/volume work.
7.Pull down the newly recorded clip's level,back to 0db @ your master output,and your totally GOLDEN+good to go!. (The amount you have to pull down,is how much you were 'over' at the master section)
Any extra mastering house/mastering tool/engineer/producer can now polish a clean signal,hopefully with really nice "peaks-dynamic range" to work with.
8.Try this with 24bit exports... see the differences.
The main point/thing/tip here could be--focus on the mix rather than worry about clipping all the time-- it's really peaks v dynamic range/RMS which is giving louder/more balanced final outputs.
As long as user is working inside ason clipping is ok,but i would never export a 24bit file exceeding 0db,because it can not really be paired later,where as,32 or 64bits can.
Crack on.
As some wise guy said. "don' wurry bout it".
Not following you here - but my point is that every time you hit play, you are hearing the same thing that would be "exported", clipping and all. There's no way to not hear clipping, so there's no way to "ignore" it when mixing… maybe I'm somehow missing something here, but I can't think of a situation where clipping would be easy/possible to ignore even if you're bouncing 32 bit internally back into Reason.Stranger. wrote:That's the point of making sure export is done without clipping,i certainly do not ignore it at all.selig wrote:Either way, it's the final output level that matters, and I just don't see how you can ignore this reality as you work. ..
Point is-it's safe to clip to mega levels using ason-- it just does not export a 'safe' 32bfp.
*Waiting*.