Predicting Reason 10

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craste
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01 May 2017

Makes you think doesn't it?

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Electric-Metal
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01 May 2017

craste wrote:Makes you think doesn't it?
Sure it does. Was one of the first things that crossed my mind when PH announced that it's gonna a free update to 9.5.

According to this, they must have some pretty awesome stuff up their sleeve for R10. :o
:?: The question is - Who cares :?:

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01 May 2017

Hopefully a waveform editor and some updated versions of the combinator and other long time Rack units?

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01 May 2017

So with the Reason world completely reinvigorated with the announcement of 9.5 I started thinking what could PH possibly have in store for 10. I think adding the new browser in 8, new players and pitch edit in 9, updated SDK for RE developers in 9.2, and then VST access in 9.5 only leaves PH with a few functions left to truly overtake the Abletons of the world. Instruments are no longer something PH will concern themselves with so we can forget about a new instrument. My prediction is we will see a vastly updated Sequencer. Its probably the one area they havent touched in a long time. Theyve added small features here and there but I see a whole new sequencer coming. Its the only thing left besides video. I also see the freeze track feature, additional players, and maybe a MK2 of another classic device as being the totality of the Reason 10 update. What do you guys think?

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01 May 2017

Why not a new instrument ? Something that is a MUST HAVE for people new to Reason to have to buy. Maybe a new synth thats built with the help of Xfer Records, Output, Izotope? Something crazy and killer exclusively for Reason. Something that they make become the new Massive or Sylenth which people instantly want. You can charge ALOT more for a DAW then a single instrument so perhaps that might be in the works.
MKII versions of the existing devices would be awesome. Though I also like how they work as is. Simple and to the point. Maybe upgrade the pitch edit to handle polyphonic material. That would be insane. Also update their audio to midi convertors. Similar to what Ableton offers. So many possibilities but we won't ever have to read about VST being the main feature request again.

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01 May 2017

The one knob to rule of them all.

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@rexbrewer They're done with instruments bro. This was established when RE came out. The only instruments they made since then were Parsec and PX7 and they both were sold separately. Added VSTi just doubles down that they will not be adding new instruments with updates anymore.

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01 May 2017

The price will raise to 199$/€ for the update :P

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Fades Audio tracks with customizable drawing curves
- VCA Mixer
- Multiple track selection ( on SSL Mixer channels)
- Function to handle optionally to keep audio tracks in the same file or externally ( when saving song file containing audio)
- Keep the same cut point of the audio track (In R9.2 currently varies depending on whether the file is stretched or not)
- "Dr W-Rex”. New updated device that now can slice Wav, Aiff and other uncompressed format of your choice
- Ability to resume an audio track erased from some bin (like the Cubase media pool manager)
- Synchronizes audio with sequencer tempo perfectly in grid ( like Ableton Live)
- Improved Zoom
- Pitch Edit Polyphonic recognition
- SSL Compressor detachable (as Rack Extension) with some new choices.
- Non-destructive Stretching
- Thor 2.0 with waveform import capabilities and other new functions of your choice.
- Combinator Mk2 (ex. with mini-sequencer inside)
- A New Player of your choice
- Mp3, Flac, Ogg, m4a Export
- Advanced block (blocks inside blocks)
- Ghost track (Like Cubase or S1)
- Alternative version songs(Like S1)
- VST support updated (if needed)
- Freeze track
- Regroove mixer influences also to audio
- Sequencer update (Editing more bars at the same time with transparency notes) and other improvement of your choice
- Editable labels indistinctly from the device or from the channel for perfect naming match
- Order channels with the same position of the rack ( optional in Preferences)
- Subtractor 2 , now stereo with 2 more oscillator and effect section of your choice
- X-comp (As half-rack device)
- OTT Compressor as half rack device ( Like Steve Duda one or famous Ableton live preset)
- Rebirth 2.0 free RE
- New revisited Mastering Suite with a Multiband built-in compressor
- New Limiter
- New spectrum analyzer with Lufs and Rms loudness measurement
- SSL Eq now has Mid/Side
- Video Support

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01 May 2017

Midi time stretching handles in the piano roll.

Return to last position on stop, or is this possible now without hitting zero twice?
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JerrelTheKing wrote:@rexbrewer They're done with instruments bro. This was established when RE came out. The only instruments they made since then were Parsec and PX7 and they both were sold separately. Added VSTi just doubles down that they will not be adding new instruments with updates anymore.
And Radical Piano and Radical Keys and the A-list series, gosh they've hardly released any instruments.

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01 May 2017

Well, PH has done many good things for Reason lately: Graphic Pitch Corrector, Players, Convolution Reverb, Delay Compensation and VST. But there is still a lot to be done.

1. Improve the Sequencer.
2. Higher Resolution Graphic.
3. Track Folders
4. Kong Using Regular Size Device.
5. Native devices MKII
6. Video
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01 May 2017

In R10 they discard VST support again. :D

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01 May 2017

Clip based composition like Ableton and Bitwig.

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01 May 2017

Karim wrote:
I love when people know exactly what they want :lol: :thumbs_up:
:?: The question is - Who cares :?:

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platzangst wrote:
JerrelTheKing wrote:@rexbrewer They're done with instruments bro. This was established when RE came out. The only instruments they made since then were Parsec and PX7 and they both were sold separately. Added VSTi just doubles down that they will not be adding new instruments with updates anymore.
And Radical Piano and Radical Keys and the A-list series, gosh they've hardly released any instruments.
Oh yeah those were for sale as well. We're talking about instruments included with updates. Keep up.

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mguh22 wrote:Clip based composition like Ableton and Bitwig.
This would be nice. My perspective is that they're now in prime position to take on these type of upgrades at this point.

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Karim wrote:
- Synchronizes audio with sequencer tempo perfectly in grid ( like Ableton Live)
What is that? Audio quantization or Audio Track Alignment.

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01 May 2017

So long as it isn't subscriptions then I'm good with anything.

I'd really like to see track and mixer groups and subgroups, it just makes it so much easier to maintain and organize a larger project, especially if you can also freeze groups. I'd also love to see better "blocks" handling, something more similar to how Studio 1 handles this.

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VST support would have been the mother of April 1st announcements. Then hit them a month later with an open BETA!!

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Electric-Metal wrote:
Karim wrote:
I love when people know exactly what they want [emoji38] [emoji106]:
Just the 2-3 things that comes in my mind. btw I send that want-list to PH 2 days ago. I hope at least 4-5 features will covered... [emoji11]

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Alkua wrote:
Karim wrote:
- Synchronizes audio with sequencer tempo perfectly in grid ( like Ableton Live)
What is that? Audio quantization or Audio Track Alignment.
mmm .. both I think. More or less what happens to a wav or an mp3 when is putted on the time line. It's perfectly sit in the grid at the tempo project (I can't express better without google transl. at the moment [emoji21]). Ableton live/Bitwig has those capabilities .

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avasopht wrote:VST support would have been the mother of April 1st announcements. Then hit them a month later with an open BETA!!
Ha ha, yes that would of been brilliant!

Why did they not do this? Good stuff!

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Karim wrote:
Alkua wrote:
Karim wrote:
- Synchronizes audio with sequencer tempo perfectly in grid ( like Ableton Live)
What is that? Audio quantization or Audio Track Alignment.
mmm .. both I think. More or less what happens to a wav or an mp3 when is putted on the time line. It's perfectly sit in the grid at the tempo project (I can't express better without google transl. at the moment [emoji21]). Ableton live/Bitwig has those capabilities .

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Yeah you or the other poster is talking about fit to tempo (from FL Studio) / Tempo Detect and Audiowarp. With these 3 options working together, Reason could automatically detect the tempo of an imported audio clip and either fit the tempo of the track to the tempo of that audio, or make the tempo of the audio fit the tempo of the track and using audiowarp it won't go chipmunky or very deep (Barry Whitey I call it lol!).

An NN-XT 2 would be a good follow on for this and it could make use of these features in the update. It could have a graphic enhancement to start with (make it look incredible Props hehe!), automapping of non-tonal samples to individual key zones, re-synthesis like on Harmor, and a sample editor contained within the new NN-XT (working outside of the Tools window one) and you could use the audiowarp, tempo detect and fit to tempo within the sample editor to sync with the track and not alter, but obviously you don't have to use those, either or and also more chopping / cutting of audio options like Slicex or Edison and the ability to add markers to various points and then trigger the markers in various ways and orders) then an FX section (Chorus, delay, reverb, flanging, phasing and distortion) would complete the NN-XT 2 nicely.

I think a Combinator 2 might be on the cards myself, just a hunch,

I think core workflow and functionality needs sorting on reason, there's too many to mention here, have about 30 for the sequencer, rack, main mixer and midi editing. To start with EVERYTHING automatable so then the new NN-XT would have all parameters automatable. Sync'ing of Windows and Browsers too and an Undo Events List to name just 4.
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