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My thoughts as well....

The free cosmos sample browser looks ok and surprised the sampler is only £9 if it is similar to mimic (I don't have r12 so cannot fully remember from the trial)

Just by taking a quick look, it appears they've covered some basic features I've wanted on Mimic...

CR8 has crossfades for looping with any stretch type (whereas Mimic only has it for Tape stretch type). The crossfades are also visual on CR8.

CR8 also has tempo syncing and Mimic still doesn't

I'll check out the demo!

joeyluck wrote: ↑

15 Feb 2022

Just by taking a quick look, it appears they've covered some basic features I've wanted on Mimic...

CR8 has crossfades for looping with any stretch type (whereas Mimic only has it for Tape stretch type). The crossfades are also visual on CR8.

CR8 also has tempo syncing and Mimic still doesn't

I'll check out the demo!

Ah I see I forgot mimic did not have tempo sync. Might demo cr8 myself just to see what the timestretch algorithm is like.

Went ahead and picked up the new CR8 sampler (launch price of 10$, felt worth it). Played around with it a little this evening and I must say it's pretty sweet. I'm still trying to learn Mimic, but I think both have a place in the rack.

The sample browser Cosmos is nice, not only cause it's free. It even has a "XO" style browsing style if you want to use it like that. And if you do not already have way too many samples you get 2500 more with Cosmos

Thanks for the post. I watched the videos and bought/downloaded the software. Opened up Reason 12 on my Mac mini M1 and it seems to work quite well for the few minutes I've had with it. The COSMOS app is quite a thing as well...

This is cool. I've gone back to R11 but have been missing Mimic, this will do nicely until I can comfortably run 12 again

I've tried it yesterday but I didn't like it. You can't drag and drop into it without the cosmos sample library. The stretching algorithms aren't as good as Mimic but they both lack a Time Machine style stretching algorithm. I didn't like the layout of Cosmos. I Much prefer XO or Atlas for the sample searching.

It's a ripoff, Waves can't think of their own ideas. I dislike this company.

Well I tried cosmos last night and initial observations were that it really struggled setting key information and a lot of my own samples read wrong. Haven't demoed the sampler yet but watched a couple of videos and wondered if it can split by transient as have not seen anyone do this in those vids I watched.

I cannot get COSMOS to start. It just stays on the spinning circle on the logo with this message:
"COSMOS is connecting to sample database. This may take a few seconds."

Skullture wrote: ↑

16 Feb 2022

It's a ripoff

Dude it's $9.99

Skullture wrote: ↑

16 Feb 2022

I've tried it yesterday but I didn't like it. You can't drag and drop into it without the cosmos sample library. The stretching algorithms aren't as good as Mimic but they both lack a Time Machine style stretching algorithm.

I was able to drag and drop from a folder. I'm on macOS if that makes a difference.

I haven't played with it much, but I think I agree about Mimic's stretching being better.

It doesn't chop up samples but it's a sampler....huh

dvdrtldg wrote: ↑

16 Feb 2022

Skullture wrote: ↑

16 Feb 2022

It's a ripoff

Dude it's $9.99

Without the "waves subscription plan" for updates or whatever.

EDIT: I meant 'ripoff' of Mimic, price is quite fair at 10 bucks. But I dislike it even if it was free.

Well, i bought it, thought why not, i needed a new sampler, plus it had a good sample library too.

But unfortunately after buying and going thru the whole process of registering an account, downloading their waves central application, installing the CR8 plugin, it's not running on my computer, in fact the DAW(Ableton) freezes on the loading screen. Then Ableton deactivated the plugin because it caused an error.

Unfortunately while installing it did throw an error that it needs a newer Mac os version.
Since when did vst plugins require updated OS ?

Oh well 10$ gone down the drain.
Would've been happy if it did work though.
But since I can't update the os on my Mac, and this thing requires newer os, I'm out of luck.
So much for getting excited about a new toy.
Anyway...

In windows 10 and Reason 11 or Studio One 5.5 work perfect!!!

Skullture wrote: ↑

16 Feb 2022

You can't drag and drop into it without the cosmos sample library.

That's a Reason issue. You can't drag and drop from Reason's awful browser into any VST. It works fine in pretty much every other DAW.

VIVIsect wrote: ↑

18 Feb 2022

Skullture wrote: ↑

16 Feb 2022

You can't drag and drop into it without the cosmos sample library.

That's a Reason issue. You can't drag and drop from Reason's awful browser into any VST. It works fine in pretty much every other DAW.

Makes sense, because I could in Ableton.

I tried CR8 and I found advanced timestretch in Mimic sounds much better.

So in summary Mimic sounds much better. It's a shame I'm sticking to R11.

miscend wrote: ↑

21 Feb 2022

So in summary Mimic sounds much better. It's a shame I'm sticking to R11.

Yes!!! They say that Mimic sounds better, but it hurts that Reason 11 works better than 12

arqui wrote: ↑

22 Feb 2022

miscend wrote: ↑

21 Feb 2022

So in summary Mimic sounds much better. It's a shame I'm sticking to R11.

Yes!!! They say that Mimic sounds better, but it hurts that Reason 11 works better than 12

IMO timestretch/pitchshift in Reason 11 sounds the same as in Reason 12 and sounds the same as in Mimic. I can't tell any difference here.

I got it today for like £7.50. Early thoughts. I love the cosmos library that comes with it. Really like that you can easily duplicate the current sample and e.g pan both samples with a tiny bit of fine tuning. Lovely. I thought the time stretching algorithms where not quite as good as algorithm.

Overall though really easy to use and an absolute bargain

Easy to use and cheap. I really like it.
The A.I. is doing a good job of sorting out my sample library.