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Came across an excellent video by Mr Chimspanner on various sidechaining methods in R12 (and any version really).
I thought the use of the sweeper was fantastic

I only came across this video sometime ago.

I've used Sweeper as a ducker for a while, but I thought the use of putting it as a send, mixed with an inverted signal, was pure genius.

deeplink wrote: ↑

08 Mar 2023

I only came across this video sometime ago.

I've used Sweeper as a ducker for a while, but I thought the use of putting it as a send, mixed with an inverted signal, was pure genius.

This is called Send Ducking, we’ve been doing it in Reason for many years now, and a great way (maybe the only way?) to duck multiple channels by various amounts.
Shout out to Sweeper as envelope follower/trigger, the best in Reason currently IMO.

selig wrote: ↑

08 Mar 2023

This is called Send Ducking....

Good to know, thanks!

A bit off topic, but do you implement the use of mixing the inverted signal for any other Send purposes?

i.e creating an "insert" out of a Send.

I was trying to think of some, but I can only imagine using with distortion perhaps.

Also, am I correct in thinking this method is better following the export of the stems - as the mix engineer will always have a clean/non-sidechained version of the track?

deeplink wrote: ↑

08 Mar 2023

selig wrote: ↑

08 Mar 2023

This is called Send Ducking....

Good to know, thanks!

A bit off topic, but do you implement the use of mixing the inverted signal for any other Send purposes?

i.e creating an "insert" out of a Send.

I was trying to think of some, but I can only imagine using with distortion perhaps.

Also, am I correct in thinking this method is better following the export of the stems - as the mix engineer will always have a clean/non-sidechained version of the track?

Sounds interesting, but I’m not following the insert out of a send example?

selig wrote: ↑

08 Mar 2023

deeplink wrote: ↑

08 Mar 2023

Good to know, thanks!

A bit off topic, but do you implement the use of mixing the inverted signal for any other Send purposes?

i.e creating an "insert" out of a Send.

I was trying to think of some, but I can only imagine using with distortion perhaps.

Also, am I correct in thinking this method is better following the export of the stems - as the mix engineer will always have a clean/non-sidechained version of the track?

Sounds interesting, but I’m not following the insert out of a send example?

Sorry that was a bit out of no where, the thinking is/was;

So typically, you would place a pump/sidechain effect as an insert - you only hear the affected signal.
Of course with sends, the result is hearing a mix of the original signal (source) with the affected (return) signal.

In the Send Sidechain example - the additional inverted signal inside the Send effect cancels out the source signal.
Thus - in my mind - having a Send Effect behave in the same way as if it was an Insert.

I'm just wondering, beside Sidechaining, when else something like this may be useful.