Pump is in the shop

[Shokstar]

I've found a bug.

It's not possible to create a note lane and that's important for recording the triggered notes. Workaround is the Combinator but it goes faster with a note lane.

[XysteR]

Drawing in automation for 'Smooth' and 'Slide' is not correct too - The rest seem to be fine though.

*EDIT I just reported the bug to: support@sonicbits.io

[Shokstar]

They should add me to their beta team!

[XysteR]

They should add me to their beta team!

haha me too. At first I thought it not working when the sequencer is stopped could be a bug, but it must work the same way as Synchronous. Need to hit play on the transport and have either data in the lane, or manually play for it to work.

At least they're easy bugs to fix and that's a good thing. Great little device even with the early minor teething issues

[joeyluck]

I've found a bug.

It's not possible to create a note lane and that's important for recording the triggered notes. Workaround is the Combinator but it goes faster with a note lane.

It's possible here. I'm on Mac.

- 'Create Track' (either by right clicking on the device and choosing 'Create Track' or by clicking the MIDI focus arrow in the rack)
- Right click on the device in the Sequencer and choose 'New Note Lane'

[Shokstar]

Creating a track is impossible but I can't record noted or drag and drop them to the seq channel because it's not creating a note lane for the midi clips!

[XysteR]

Creating a track is possible but I can't record noted or drag and drop them to the seq channel because it's not creating a note lane for the midi clips!

I'm not entirely sure what you mean here? It seems to be working ok for me. I drag an expanse synth to the rack, drag an instance of Pump under it as an insert. Record with expanse track selected - In go the midi notes as normal. Then to automate a parameter in Pump I just right click on a parameter as normal and it creates an automation lane for that parameter within pump. Works as it should apart from the automation for the two parameters I mentioned were bugged a few posts up.

I don't think you're meant to draw in midi notes for Pump, only the instrument you're using pump on? So it seems the only lanes that can accompany Pump are automation lanes

[joeyluck]

Creating a track is impossible but I can't record noted or drag and drop them to the seq channel because it's not creating a note lane for the midi clips!

You have to do as I mentioned above and create a new note lane first. That's the step you are missing I suppose.

[XysteR]

Creating a track is impossible but I can't record noted or drag and drop them to the seq channel because it's not creating a note lane for the midi clips!

You have to do as I mentioned above and create a new note lane first. That's the step you are missing I suppose.

Am I missing something here Joey? Why would a note lane be needed for the effect. I assumed only the instrument that is being effected by Pump has the note data, and Pump as an insert effect can only have automation lanes?

[joeyluck]

Unless I'm misunderstanding what you are trying to do Shokstar,
Here's Pump with a track created and Note Lane...

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[joeyluck]

Creating a track is impossible but I can't record noted or drag and drop them to the seq channel because it's not creating a note lane for the midi clips!

You have to do as I mentioned above and create a new note lane first. That's the step you are missing I suppose.

Am I missing something here Joey? Why would a note lane be needed for the effect. I assumed only the instrument that is being effected by Pump has the note data, and Pump as an insert effect can only have automation lanes?

For the note trigger/note gate modes. Most folks might place it in a Combinator with an instrument and tell it to receive notes along with the instrument. But there are cases when you might apply it to an audio track for instance and want to simply play and record note triggers into the Sequencer for the device itself.

[XysteR]

Creating a track is impossible but I can't record noted or drag and drop them to the seq channel because it's not creating a note lane for the midi clips!

You have to do as I mentioned above and create a new note lane first. That's the step you are missing I suppose.

Am I missing something here Joey? Why would a note lane be needed for the effect. I assumed only the instrument that is being effected by Pump has the note data, and Pump as an insert effect can only have automation lanes?

For the note trigger/note gate modes. Most folks might place it in a Combinator with an instrument and tell it to receive notes along with the instrument. But there are cases when you might apply it to an audio track for instance and want to simply play and record note triggers into the Sequencer for the device itself.

Ah now I see. Thanks for clearing that up.

[Shokstar]

Joey are you using the Sierra OSX?

[joeyluck]

Joey are you using the Sierra OSX?

No, I'm on 10.9.5

[XysteR]

Shokstar, I think I have it. Drag a Pump into the rack. Right click on pump and select 'Create Track For ***********' then right click the track it creates in the sequencer and select 'New Note Lane'.

[Shokstar]

Shokstar, I think I have it. Drag a Pump into the rack. Right click on pump and select 'Create Track For ***********' then right click the track it creates in the sequencer and select 'New Note Lane'.

Yes, like usual and that doesn't work. Maybe it has something to do with the new Sierra OSX. Idk. I'll double check it when I get home. Sometimes is Reason the troublemaker instead of the plugin.

[XysteR]

Shokstar, I think I have it. Drag a Pump into the rack. Right click on pump and select 'Create Track For ***********' then right click the track it creates in the sequencer and select 'New Note Lane'.

Yes, like usual and that doesn't work. Maybe it has something to do with the new Sierra OSX. Idk. I'll double check it when I get home. Sometimes is Reason the troublemaker instead of the plugin.

Well it would seem if it's ok for Joey on 10.9.5 then Sierra or Reason would likely be the culprit. I'm on Windows 10. For the time being I'll hold off with Sierra on my MacBook pro then.

[joeyluck]

Shokstar, I think I have it. Drag a Pump into the rack. Right click on pump and select 'Create Track For ***********' then right click the track it creates in the sequencer and select 'New Note Lane'.

Those are the steps I gave above

It's possible here. I'm on Mac.

- 'Create Track' (either by right clicking on the device and choosing 'Create Track' or by clicking the MIDI focus arrow in the rack)
- Right click on the device in the Sequencer and choose 'New Note Lane'

[XysteR]

Shokstar, I think I have it. Drag a Pump into the rack. Right click on pump and select 'Create Track For ***********' then right click the track it creates in the sequencer and select 'New Note Lane'.

Those are the steps I gave above

It's possible here. I'm on Mac.

- 'Create Track' (either by right clicking on the device and choosing 'Create Track' or by clicking the MIDI focus arrow in the rack)
- Right click on the device in the Sequencer and choose 'New Note Lane'

My head is firmly up my arse today Joey - sorry about that

[Shokstar]

Right click on the seq. track works well now. On the last session was it not available. It´s not a bug.

I´m sorry for making so much noise about that!

[Gorgon]

Just had a go. Its actually a damn cool device - It saves you making ghost kick channels and setting up a sidechain with the SSL or your choice compressor. I'm not sure I'll end up putting it in my sends. I think for me, it'd be more used as an insert on bass and or pads. I found you can get some nice movement between a bass and pad when clagging this in as an insert with slightly differing automated settings. On a creative level this is saves a lot of time. So I bought it.

Sounds good.

[joeyluck]

My head is firmly up my arse today Joey - sorry about that

Haha no need to be sorry! Glad you are here to help And discovering it for yourself is satisfying.

Right click on the seq. track works well now. On the last session was it not available. It´s not a bug.

I´m sorry for making so much noise about that!

You should add me to your personal bug report debunking beta team!

[Jmax]

Here's a short video I made with pump playing with some features.

[Shokstar]

My head is firmly up my arse today Joey - sorry about that

Haha no need to be sorry! Glad you are here to help And discovering it for yourself is satisfying.

Right click on the seq. track works well now. On the last session was it not available. It´s not a bug.

I´m sorry for making so much noise about that!

You should add me to your personal bug report debunking beta team!

Will do it Damn, what a funny fail xD

[joeyluck]

This is certainly a great device and a great price, but I prefer using kHs Trance Gate for similar functions.
It gives more flexibility over the patterns (unlike the preset ones of Pump; which are great) and I prefer using the Trance Gate's envelope and it's approach with faders.

The Shape knob on Pump isn't quite what I was expecting. For what it is, it could have been a drop-down of shapes (and less of a mystery dial). But then again I do like how it compliments the interface... Not sure if shape labels could fit around the dial (making it more of a selector knob that it is). But I guess if this is your goto device, you'll learn what numbers correspond to what shapes.

Still gets a high score from me. I just prefer another tool for the job