So this VST thing got me curious, I wonder if it's more CPU-efficient to use an RE version of a plugin compared to the VST version of said plugin in the Reason rack?
Say comparing synths like Predator or Legend, or effects such as Softtube FET or Devastor2. Anyone had a chance to check this in the beta?
Could be a factor in the VST vs RE "war" for sure.
DSP usage RE vs VST in Reason
If you are on windows could you please check, if the vst' s use the fourth CPU core. Before Reason could only use three of the four physical cores.decibel wrote:although im using the logging beta so its probably not the best gauge of 9.5s perfomance i can say that using lots of vsts in the rack is putting a strain on the cpu without a doubt, im already thinking i might need a new computer lol
From a technical standpoint VSTs can potentially be better optimized than REs.
This has to do with the fact that the RE code is platform agonstic, and that RE's (currently) are sandboxed. With VST the developer can do optimizations on hardware level, etc.
This is put simply, and as far as I understad it.
This has to do with the fact that the RE code is platform agonstic, and that RE's (currently) are sandboxed. With VST the developer can do optimizations on hardware level, etc.
This is put simply, and as far as I understad it.
sorry riemac wish i could help but im on an old mac manriemac wrote:If you are on windows could you please check, if the vst' s use the fourth CPU core. Before Reason could only use three of the four physical cores.decibel wrote:although im using the logging beta so its probably not the best gauge of 9.5s perfomance i can say that using lots of vsts in the rack is putting a strain on the cpu without a doubt, im already thinking i might need a new computer lol
The beta version is surely slower than the candidate. But which model of Mac do you own?riemac wrote:If you are on windows could you please check, if the vst' s use the fourth CPU core. Before Reason could only use three of the four physical cores.decibel wrote:although im using the logging beta so its probably not the best gauge of 9.5s perfomance i can say that using lots of vsts in the rack is putting a strain on the cpu without a doubt, im already thinking i might need a new computer lol
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It is way too early to tell.Heater wrote:Can someone who has the beta and Legend in RE and VST format please do a test with say 8 Legend RE synths playing different chords and keep adding until you max our your CPU and then try it with the VST version. I would love to know the results.
There is overhead in the testing and logging versions that are running in the beta. Comparisons like that cannot be made untill in the final stages of the beta.
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Those who are beta testing are all using a logging version. While someone could still do a test between RE and VST performance with logging, the overall number would be misleading. But also, can't be sure that the logging doesn't cause more of a difference in one or the other format...Heater wrote:Can someone who has the beta and Legend in RE and VST format please do a test with say 8 Legend RE synths playing different chords and keep adding until you max our your CPU and then try it with the VST version. I would love to know the results.
How are you using the beta? Don't beta testers usually have to sign an NDA not to disclose information publicly? I don't believe beta testers are aloud discuss things in public forums without risking losing their beta tester status.decibel wrote:although im using the logging beta so its probably not the best gauge of 9.5s perfomance i can say that using lots of vsts in the rack is putting a strain on the cpu without a doubt, im already thinking i might need a new computer lol
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