Because they didn't know... [emoji2]Tumble wrote:I still don't get the reasoning. Why port this over if they knew VST support was coming? I mean, this doesn't offer anything that the VST doesn't. In fact, you lose out on microtuning and optimization with this.
11.3 + R12.x + IMac 2016 21")Give them some time. Reveal-Sound are kind of notorious for a bit faulty updates, which get fixed soon after. You're probably right, they shouldn't have pushed it to the public so soon, but, you know how it is. People expect the stuff. Yesterday.TritoneAddiction wrote:I feel kind of bad for bashing this synth earlier in this thread, even though I still feel everything I said was true. It did come off as very negative.
Though I have to admit I did feel bad for the people who bought it expecting a fully featured working synth. The price and the hype could easily make people instabuy before trying it.
I just think it's a shame they pushed it out way too early. I think many will pay for a really good RE version even if the VST version is available.
Just went through some of the presets again. Some of them are really nice I have to say.
When/if everything becomes automatable I'm ready to give it a second chance, that is if I'll be able to trial a finished version now that I've started my trial period already.
Hopefully Reveal Sound take the time they need to finish it. I think we all want the RE version to be successful and the developer to continue making REs.
Pulling it like this also seems to have screwed up the shop database. I had added it to my cart last night. I went to purchase it today but it was no longer for sale. Now, I can not access my cart properly. It says I have one item in it but when I click on it, the cart won't load. I tried to add another RE to the cart and check out in hopes that I could remove ReSpire before payment, and I receive the following error: ErrorFaastwalker wrote:Has an RE ever been pulled like this before? It's a real shame it appears to have been rushed out with the issues it has. I guess they would want to get it in the shop ASAP before 9.5 is released. But I don't think it was necessary for them to do this in light of 9.5. I'm sure most of us here would prefer the RE over the VST. I certainly would, especially for the crazy intro price. But obviously you don't want to buy a broken device and I'd like to see more CV stuff on the back. Ironically the VST version will have more I/O via the VST device than the RE version has!! That's very unfortunate at a time when RE's have been overshadowed somewhat by the announcement of VST support. They need all the help they can get so the Spire saga is particularly unfortunate. Hopefully the guys will get this fixed up soon and back in the shop.
That's fair enough Adam. But Reveal Sound have been in the business for a long time, working on only one synth. They will rectify everything, I'm 100% sure of that.adfielding wrote:I can understand the annoyance at people being overly critical, but a synth not working at any sample rate besides 44khz is a HUGE oversight, and I don't think people are being "whingers" by pointing it out. That's the kind of thing that would make it totally unusable for me in many instances.XysteR wrote:Dude, read through the comments in this thread, wingers as always. It's no wonder a lot of VST devs don't want anything to do with rack extensions with this bunch of fucking wingers crying like babies.
Just because something is working perfectly well for you doesn't mean you can dismiss the valid concerns of other people who are clearly having issues. Case in point: I'm one of the three people or so who didn't have a massive problem with Windows Vista back in the day (I know, right), but I'd have to be a total loon not to see that it caused nothing but issues for a lot of people.
As has been said: if they fix it up and get it right, I'll be very tempted. But until then? Not a gamble I'm willing to take, I'm afraid.
Exactly because of this - they should know it better. Do you expect such "alpha" release from someone being in the business for a long time? No!XysteR wrote: But Reveal Sound have been in the business for a long time, working on only one synth.
From my experience with u-he i can tell that urs would never release a plugin with so many bugs, even as free and public betasupersmarter wrote:Exactly because of this - they should know it better. Do you expect such "alpha" release from someone being in the business for a long time? No!XysteR wrote: But Reveal Sound have been in the business for a long time, working on only one synth.
U-he when releasing such stuff for public testing they release it for FREE with timed limitations and lack of some features.
To me this stunt was some sort of quick cash milking rather then impressive release.
Well let's hope these bugs aren't contagious.DJBuddhaBear wrote:Pulling it like this also seems to have screwed up the shop database. I had added it to my cart last night. I went to purchase it today but it was no longer for sale. Now, I can not access my cart properly.
It's been said here at Reasontalk as well (by chk071), and I agree. Reveal Sound has had more than one buggy update to Spire land in their VST, and it's usually patched afterwards.miscend wrote:Someone on KVR was saying it is typical of Reveal Sound to jump the gun and release something premature. They said not to panic they always get stuff working as promised. The VST version had a few completely broken releases too which got fixed with updates. .
It took me several times logging in and out as well as clearing all cookies for the Prop Shop to fix it.Jagwah wrote:Well let's hope these bugs aren't contagious.DJBuddhaBear wrote:Pulling it like this also seems to have screwed up the shop database. I had added it to my cart last night. I went to purchase it today but it was no longer for sale. Now, I can not access my cart properly.
If the Props had a magic bug fixer, they would be using it for sure. But all they can check for is to be sure you're following the rules they set.ReasonUser wrote:I thought the props have a meticulous approval process?
Perhaps more than one company dropped the ball here...
189? For a Rack Extension? LOL! More like 89.miscend wrote:It looks like the intro price of $59 is for the preview. They said on their FB page that the full price will be $189.
Exactly.raymondh wrote:
That said, this is a really, really nice sounding synth. It sounds really "present", very snappy, forward, big and interesting. It has character. I'm not an EDM guy but I find many of the presets really musical and inspiring.
Speaking of U-he, Did they ever sort out the bitrate for Uhbik A?Gosh wrote:From my experience with u-he i can tell that urs would never release a plugin with so many bugs, even as free and public betasupersmarter wrote:Exactly because of this - they should know it better. Do you expect such "alpha" release from someone being in the business for a long time? No!XysteR wrote: But Reveal Sound have been in the business for a long time, working on only one synth.
U-he when releasing such stuff for public testing they release it for FREE with timed limitations and lack of some features.
To me this stunt was some sort of quick cash milking rather then impressive release.
raymondh wrote:That said, this is a really, really nice sounding synth. It sounds really "present", very snappy, forward, big and interesting. It has character. I'm not an EDM guy but I find many of the presets really musical and inspiring.
Looking forward to the re-release...
Truth! Spire just has "that" sound, right out of the box. Truly fantastic synth, and no wonder it's ranked in the top 10 VST synths since it was released. I didn't pay $189 for it, though - it goes on sale for at least 30% off about twice a year.chk071 wrote:
Exactly.
Yep - works fantastic... in the VST.XysteR wrote:Speaking of U-he, Did they ever sort out the bitrate for Uhbik A?
Seriously though, U-He has abandoned his RE's. He regrets ever releasing them, as the in-house programmer that did them for him left the company and he hasn't the resources, time, nor interest to invest in having someone else learn the RE SDK just to fix them (he barely made any money on them, apparently).Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 6 guests
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