Antares Auto Tune RE in the shop

[RobBarnett]

https://www.reasonstudios.com/shop/rack ... ne-reason/

[marcuswitt]

Great to see a 'dinosaur' of pitch manipulation being onboard the RE vessel. But its price tag of 109,- € is a bit offending, I think. Half of that price would be fair, in my humble opinion. 109,- €... nope, not my cup of tea.

[Loque]

Thats a surprise...I think from now on its ok that i cannot sing

Man, i wish it would have a "tune" signal CV output...

[Bes]

yeah this is unexpected, potentially a sale purchase someday for me

[sdst]

i have never used this, I'm going to try if i can sing like michael jackson

I buy

[Jagwah]

Glad to see CV inputs on the back and them also being made a point of in the video.

Not much of an opinion on it at this point.

[bieh]

I'd heard of Melodyne, Little Altar Boy, Nectar, and not much else in the autotune world. With this, it seemed odd to put "Reason" in the name, and seemed like an attempt to make a Reason device look more like a VST. But I see there's a reason for those things! I gather Antares is famous in the autotune world as well. And this looks like a VST because it already was one. It would seem "Reason" is in the name because it's one of various editions of Antares Autotune and needed something to distinguish it.

It's basically an equivalent of Antares Autotune Access, so it makes sense that it's $99 if that's the price of Access.

But after a quick play with it, I have to say I'm not likely to use a device with such limitations on correction speed settings. I feel getting the result I want out of an autotune will often require automation of the correction speed for different parts of phrases, so I would easily choose Neptune over this for vocal pitch correction. But I'll have a play with the Gate/Note out and see what that brings to the table.

[Loque]

I'd heard of Melodyne, Little Altar Boy, Nectar, and not much else in the autotune world. With this, it seemed odd to put "Reason" in the name, and seemed like an attempt to make a Reason device look more like a VST. But I see there's a reason for those things! I gather Antares is famous in the autotune world as well. And this looks like a VST because it already was one. It would seem "Reason" is in the name because it's one of various editions of Antares Autotune and needed something to distinguish it.

It's basically an equivalent of Antares Autotune Access, so it makes sense that it's $99 if that's the price of Access.

But after a quick play with it, I have to say I'm not likely to use a device with such limitations on correction speed settings. I feel getting the result I want out of an autotune will often require automation of the correction speed for different parts of phrases, so I would easily choose Neptune over this.

This is probably for live performances. If you want to pitch correct a audio sample, you can just use Reason itself.

[bieh]

This is probably for live performances. If you want to pitch correct a audio sample, you can just use Reason itself.

Can't you use Neptune for live performances in virtually the same way?

[Loque]

This is probably for live performances. If you want to pitch correct a audio sample, you can just use Reason itself.

Can't you use Neptune for live performances in virtually the same way?

You can and Neptune was made for this and also for recorded stuff back in the time.

Today it would be interesting if Antares is much better than Neptune. Antares got famous, but there were no good VSTs and Reason "always" had Neptune.

[rgdaniel]

[Kilsane]

it looks a lot like auto-tune access, I wonder if there will be an equivalent of auto-tune pro and auto-tune artist.
I will wait

[guitfnky]

not something I’d ever really use personally, but I think it’s a cool thing to have as an option in Reason.

I do wonder a bit about the marketing though. RS did the promo vid? I mean, at this point it’s not really “competing” with Neptune, since Neptune comes with Reason, but it does strike me as a little odd. not that it’s a good or bad thing, I just don’t understand it.

[QVprod]

I’m really surprised. Didn’t think we’d see another RE from a big developer. RS doing the promo vid makes me wonder if they Perhaps pursued Antares to license the code

[bxbrkrz]

It's a positive move for the Re echosystem, especially for the target market of people using Reason inside other DAWs.

[miscend]

Look like a very cut down version of Autotune. Without the graphical editor.


Hopefully we will get ARA2 and VST3 support sometime soon!

[jjkjjk]

If licensing third-party VST code to make REs is (part of) the future . . . I like it

[guitfnky]

I don’t think they licensed it though—it’s still only branded Antares (from what I recall). RS just did the video, I think. that’s why it’s kind of perplexing to me.

[pushedbutton]

I use neptune all the time. Is this significantly different?

[ljekio]

It's a positive move for the Re echosystem, especially for the target market of people using Reason inside other DAWs.

Why people need use RE in other daws if they can use vst antares?
I think that can be more interesting for people who use Reason as daw. But promo video show Ableton. Strange...

[zabukowski]

I use neptune all the time. Is this significantly different?

I am not the Antares fan, but it's obvious than Auto Tune is WAY more natural than both contenders (from video above). Must say i am a bit surprised, how smooth it worked on that vocal track.

[DaveyG]

Beware of carefully-crafted demo's! No pitch correction will turn a bad singer into a good one. You can tweak bum notes but if the singer is way off with tuning or intonation it's never going to sound great. I've used both Autotune and Melodyne fairly extensively over the years and unless you want the Cher effect or live correction I would recommend Melodyne. And there is already some pitch correction built in to Reason. It's not the greatest but it's not the worst.

[joeyluck]

I'd heard of Melodyne, Little Altar Boy, Nectar, and not much else in the autotune world...

...I gather Antares is famous in the autotune world as well...

If you are familiar with "auto-tune," you are familiar with Antares, because technically no other "auto-tune" exists. It was invented by Antares/Andy Hildebrand in 1997. They coined the phrase and trademarked the name. It is why you don't see "autotune" used on other products (in their names or the functions within them). Alternatives are always "pitch correction", "pitch adjust", "auto correction", "vocal tune", etc. But "auto-tune" has become a popular verb used to describe the effect.

I use neptune all the time. Is this significantly different?

The algorithm is better and you may find it sounds better on your performances. Neptune tends to have more artifacts. The focus of Auto-Tune Reason/Access is primarily on the auto-tune aspect—so no additional features like formant shift or vocal synth. You can correct your vocals via MIDI or CV input, monophonically.

I'm guessing the main customers here will be folks who want the Auto-Tune algorithm or Reason Intro customers who don't have Neptune and want Auto-Tune to use in Reason standalone or the RRP.

I'm hoping other versions follow. I think Auto-Tune Pro's price tag might be a bit too high for the RE market? However, something like Auto-Tune EFX+ would do well I think.

[Loque]

there is just a new released auto tuner, which also has a live mode for less than the half price. Did not tried and there is currently no video out. I just added it if someone is interested to try and compare:
https://www.crispytuner.com/

[QVprod]

I don’t think they licensed it though—it’s still only branded Antares (from what I recall). RS just did the video, I think. that’s why it’s kind of perplexing to me.

That's why I'm curious if it might be licensed. Seeing as RS already has a system in place for RE revenue sharing, the terms are pretty simple. Antares doesn't seem to be talking about it at all, neither is it mentioned on their website. RS hasn't done video for any other RE that they weren't involved in. As an example, BFD Jazz and Funk refill in the shop was created by Nucleus Soundlab with samples licensed from FXpansion.

*sort of correction: they shared RS’ Facebook post. Maybe it’s just too early in the day.