RE 200 Bass Enhancer

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26 Jan 2022

Is there any major differences between the (RE 200 Bass Enhancer on sale now )
and SubColours Octave Diver From Turn 2 On (which I own)
Do they do pretty much the same thing ? Or does the RE 200 Bass Enhancer from Red Rock Sound , have some secret sauce in it ? :?:
https://www.reasonstudios.com/shop/rack ... -enhancer/
https://www.reasonstudios.com/shop/rack ... ave-diver/
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26 Jan 2022

moneykube wrote:
26 Jan 2022
Is there any major differences between the (RE 200 Bass Enhancer on sale now )
and SubColours Octave Diver From Turn 2 On (which I own)
Do they do pretty much the same thing ? Or does the RE 200 Bass Enhancer from Blamsoft , have some secret sauce in it ? :?:
https://www.reasonstudios.com/shop/rack ... -enhancer/
https://www.reasonstudios.com/shop/rack ... ave-diver/
RE 200 Bass Enhancer is by Red Rock Sound not Blamsoft. Unfortunately I cannot answer your question. ;)

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26 Jan 2022

They aren't the same thing. Octave Diver is an octave divider (analyzes the fundamental frequency of the incoming sound and divides it by two) plus a lot of other interesting stuff.

RE200 simply enhances low frequencies with overtones that create more presence and an illusion of a sub-octave.

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26 Jan 2022

Also, RE200 ain't all that great

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dvdrtldg wrote:
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Also, RE200 ain't all that great
That depends on what you're feeding it.
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27 Jan 2022

eusti wrote:
26 Jan 2022
moneykube wrote:
26 Jan 2022
Is there any major differences between the (RE 200 Bass Enhancer on sale now )
and SubColours Octave Diver From Turn 2 On (which I own)
Do they do pretty much the same thing ? Or does the RE 200 Bass Enhancer from Blamsoft , have some secret sauce in it ? :?:
https://www.reasonstudios.com/shop/rack ... -enhancer/
https://www.reasonstudios.com/shop/rack ... ave-diver/
RE 200 Bass Enhancer is by Red Rock Sound not Blamsoft. Unfortunately I cannot answer your question. ;)

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thanks... fixed my mistake in the op :oops:
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27 Jan 2022

crimsonwarlock wrote:
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dvdrtldg wrote:
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Also, RE200 ain't all that great
That depends on what you're feeding it.
Well, sure. But that goes for all bass enhancers. I'm not saying Red Rock's is a bad product, I use it sometimes and it does an OK job. But there are certainly better ones out there

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dvdrtldg wrote:
27 Jan 2022
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That depends on what you're feeding it.
Well, sure. But that goes for all bass enhancers. I'm not saying Red Rock's is a bad product, I use it sometimes and it does an OK job. But there are certainly better ones out there
ok... do you have any suggestions or links to the better ones?
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moneykube wrote:
28 Jan 2022
dvdrtldg wrote:
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Well, sure. But that goes for all bass enhancers. I'm not saying Red Rock's is a bad product, I use it sometimes and it does an OK job. But there are certainly better ones out there
ok... do you have any suggestions or links to the better ones?
Sure. But of course these are all "better" for me, if someone else is getting good results with Red Rock Sound, then more power to them. I just struggle to get good results from it, takes me a lot of fiddling

Three of my favourites are are Waves plugins, so that might be a deal breaker for some people. But I get a lot of use out of Vitamin (multiband, does a great job right across the frequency spectrum), Lo Air (for creating subharmonics) and Renaissance Bass (a bass bigger-upper for playback on systems that don't push a lot of air). The one Waves bass enhancer that I don't like is Maxx Bass

Melda MBassador is good too - I think this one somehow recreates bass frequencies instead of "enhancing" by adding harmonic content to what's already there - whatever, I like it

For drums & percussion, you can't go past Metric Halo Thump (which is free)

But a bass enhancement trick that often works is simply to use a band splitter and dial in some saturation on the low end. Plenty of candidates for this, but Klanghelm SDRR2 is particularly good (and imo a must-have in anyone's saturation plugin arsenal)

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dvdrtldg wrote:
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But a bass enhancement trick that often works is simply to use a band splitter and dial in some saturation on the low end. Plenty of candidates for this, but Klanghelm SDRR2 is particularly good (and imo a must-have in anyone's saturation plugin arsenal)
SDRR2 is a secret weapon. I can't believe more people don't use it, or if they do, they don't talk about it. Same goes for MJUC and DC8C3.
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huggermugger wrote:
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dvdrtldg wrote:
29 Jan 2022

But a bass enhancement trick that often works is simply to use a band splitter and dial in some saturation on the low end. Plenty of candidates for this, but Klanghelm SDRR2 is particularly good (and imo a must-have in anyone's saturation plugin arsenal)
SDRR2 is a secret weapon. I can't believe more people don't use it, or if they do, they don't talk about it. Same goes for MJUC and DC8C3.
Yep. Klanghelm plugins are insanely good value too, like you I often wonder why they're not better known

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This has been Klanghelm Appreciation Hour with me your host, Ernst von Klanghelm. Thank you for watching

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29 Jan 2022

thank you... looking at the suggestions now
Purchased SDRR2 > downloading it now ... thanks again... I love the different modes and the flexibility... way more options... I am super glad I asked the original question. This should work great for my needs. :clap: :exclamation: :lightbulb: :thumbs_up:
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dvdrtldg wrote:
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This has been Klanghelm Appreciation Hour with me your host, Ernst von Klanghelm. Thank you for watching
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dvdrtldg wrote:
29 Jan 2022
moneykube wrote:
28 Jan 2022


ok... do you have any suggestions or links to the better ones?
Sure. But of course these are all "better" for me, if someone else is getting good results with Red Rock Sound, then more power to them. I just struggle to get good results from it, takes me a lot of fiddling

Three of my favourites are are Waves plugins, so that might be a deal breaker for some people. But I get a lot of use out of Vitamin (multiband, does a great job right across the frequency spectrum), Lo Air (for creating subharmonics) and Renaissance Bass (a bass bigger-upper for playback on systems that don't push a lot of air). The one Waves bass enhancer that I don't like is Maxx Bass

Melda MBassador is good too - I think this one somehow recreates bass frequencies instead of "enhancing" by adding harmonic content to what's already there - whatever, I like it

For drums & percussion, you can't go past Metric Halo Thump (which is free)

But a bass enhancement trick that often works is simply to use a band splitter and dial in some saturation on the low end. Plenty of candidates for this, but Klanghelm SDRR2 is particularly good (and imo a must-have in anyone's saturation plugin arsenal)
Would be interesed in how you would rate Infuser here, as you seem to have a lot of experience with these types of effects. 🤓
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Would be interesed in how you would rate Infuser here, as you seem to have a lot of experience with these types of effects. 🤓
My ridiculous number of REs/VSTs is the main reason I haven't tried it... decided a while back to rein it in & stop collecting plugins unless they fill a gap that needs filling and are on sale. But I'll take it out for a test drive and see if I can resist buying, it looks really good

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31 Jan 2022

moneykube wrote:
26 Jan 2022
Is there any major differences between the (RE 200 Bass Enhancer on sale now )
and SubColours Octave Diver From Turn 2 On (which I own)
Do they do pretty much the same thing ? Or does the RE 200 Bass Enhancer from Red Rock Sound , have some secret sauce in it ? :?:
https://www.reasonstudios.com/shop/rack ... -enhancer/
https://www.reasonstudios.com/shop/rack ... ave-diver/
From my own experiences, Waves Renaissance Bass is still the best bass enhancer plugin going even after all these years... worth getting the VST and it only costs $29 at the moment...

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And I'm here like... I've never ever found any use for bass enhancers? 😂 What am I missing?

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PhillipOrdonez wrote:
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And I'm here like... I've never ever found any use for bass enhancers? 😂 What am I missing?
I get the impression they're mostly useful if you're trying to make somebody else's bass sound good.

(Or yours if you played a bass into a mic and aren't happy with how it came out. :-))

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integerpoet wrote:
31 Jan 2022
PhillipOrdonez wrote:
31 Jan 2022
And I'm here like... I've never ever found any use for bass enhancers? 😂 What am I missing?
I get the impression they're mostly useful if you're trying to make somebody else's bass sound good.

(Or yours if you played a bass into a mic and aren't happy with how it came out. :-))
Right 🤔

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I keep one in my master section to give everything just a little more oomph, it's dialed in super-subtly. I've used them on other folks' basses too, like integerpoet just mentioned, to thicken them up when the recording wasn't ideal. I do use the Red Rock ones, I like their stuff.

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PhillipOrdonez wrote:
31 Jan 2022
And I'm here like... I've never ever found any use for bass enhancers? 😂 What am I missing?
Depends on what they are actually doing IMO. I’ve always liked adding subtle saturation to just certain low frequencies because of how it sounds similar to how some inductors/transformers affect audio. When I first started out, all saturation just sounded like ‘distortion’ to me, at least until I learned about frequency specific saturation (which eventually led to the design of both ColoringEQ snd Infuser).
Basically, by ‘warming up’ just the low frequencies you can add harmonic density (girth, bigness) and increase the average energy (loudness) as well without sounding ‘distorted’ (as long as you are careful!).
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selig wrote:
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PhillipOrdonez wrote:
31 Jan 2022
And I'm here like... I've never ever found any use for bass enhancers? 😂 What am I missing?
Depends on what they are actually doing IMO. I’ve always liked adding subtle saturation to just certain low frequencies because of how it sounds similar to how some inductors/transformers affect audio. When I first started out, all saturation just sounded like ‘distortion’ to me, at least until I learned about frequency specific saturation (which eventually led to the design of both ColoringEQ snd Infuser).
Basically, by ‘warming up’ just the low frequencies you can add harmonic density (girth, bigness) and increase the average energy (loudness) as well without sounding ‘distorted’ (as long as you are careful!).
Interesting 🤔 I personally only use ColoringEQ applied to middle bands and never on the bottom end 🤔

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moneykube wrote:
28 Jan 2022
dvdrtldg wrote:
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Well, sure. But that goes for all bass enhancers. I'm not saying Red Rock's is a bad product, I use it sometimes and it does an OK job. But there are certainly better ones out there
ok... do you have any suggestions or links to the better ones?
Fabfilter Saturn is one of the best, also Decapitator is wonderful.

Waves LoAir and RBass also good

As far as inside Reason, Scream is always a fine choice for saturation
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PhillipOrdonez wrote:
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And I'm here like... I've never ever found any use for bass enhancers? 😂 What am I missing?
Well sir you are maybe missing out. Bass saturation brings a whole new feel in the low end. Especially if you play your track in the car or studio speakers you can feel it through your body. It’s a great experience
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