Hehe thanks for the support though I really like the idea of a single stereo channel 1U strip mixer but it has to be useful and I need help there as I am not an audio engineer nor a musician.
I'll throw in my 2 cents and say I've always been intrigued by the idea of a channel strip plugin, but never found a real use for them in my workflow. Its one of those things that sounds like the obvious need to me but never actually gets used on any projects. I'll have to think to figure out why that may be. In an "empty" DAW like Pro Tools, they MAY make sense - but Reason is different as it already includes a full channel strip for every source.
Yes correct it was definitely a strip we were thinking of, but I have gone cold on the idea, mainly for the reasons (pun intended) you describe.selig wrote: ↑24 Jul 2023I'll throw in my 2 cents and say I've always been intrigued by the idea of a channel strip plugin, but never found a real use for them in my workflow. Its one of those things that sounds like the obvious need to me but never actually gets used on any projects. I'll have to think to figure out why that may be. In an "empty" DAW like Pro Tools, they MAY make sense - but Reason is different as it already includes a full channel strip for every source.
I don't know the current general consensus on the subject, but at one time they were all the rage and then almost as suddenly, not.
In writing this I realized I assumed you were describing a channel strip, but now wonder if it's something different?
Some nice ideas here but you highlight just how many different ways of doing this there are.Arpeg wrote: ↑28 Jul 2023Some visual ideas.. Patching about in MS Paint
What fits, what doesn't etc
1U, 2 AUX, dual Pan, HPF, Bass, Mid, Treble, Gate, signal led - returns with Tilt
5 Channel. Do-able? Worth it?
M5 Mixtrack.png
2U Combinator based
Micromix A and B 2.png
3U EQ visual idea using the LAB:ONE's Equila EQ + Executioner for Crossfader
5 Channel Micromix AB crossfader C 2.png
Hello! I'm curious if there some people want CV mixer as much as I do...
That and a VCA specifically for CV would be dope._andreypetr_ wrote: ↑30 Jul 2023Hello! I'm curious if there some people want CV mixer as much as I do...
Yes, 'many ways to skin a Cat' Sorry for the random image drop but the purpose was to prompt ideas only. Some live performance related and Front panel only I guess as my 1U and 3U images would be CV jam packed on the rear.Murf wrote: ↑29 Jul 2023Some nice ideas here but you highlight just how many different ways of doing this there are.Arpeg wrote: ↑28 Jul 2023Some visual ideas.. Patching about in MS Paint
What fits, what doesn't etc
1U, 2 AUX, dual Pan, HPF, Bass, Mid, Treble, Gate, signal led - returns with Tilt
5 Channel. Do-able? Worth it?
M5 Mixtrack.png
2U Combinator based
Micromix A and B 2.png
3U EQ visual idea using the LAB:ONE's Equila EQ + Executioner for Crossfader
5 Channel Micromix AB crossfader C 2.png
I am currently prototyping a 2U 8:2 stereo mixer with 4 aux sends, basically a cross between the Reason 6:2 and 14:2 mixers.
One idea I am toying with is extending the UI via selectable panels, so I dont have to cram all the controls into such a tight space.
This should allow for some extras like effects etc, any thoughts?
Here is a prototype artwork (no selectable panels in this yet though)
mix82_mockup.png
mix82_rear_mockup.png
Artwork taken from Reason.
Murf.
All of it is remote-able, as long as I set then up in the code. I think there is a limit of about 200 though, so I might not be able to cover everything especially if I extend to more controls for things like effects etc.Arpeg wrote: ↑30 Jul 2023
Yes, 'many ways to skin a Cat' Sorry for the random image drop but the purpose was to prompt ideas only. Some live performance related and Front panel only I guess as my 1U and 3U images would be CV jam packed on the rear.
I did a 1U as you toyed with the idea and loaded it up with possible useful options per channel.
I like your 8:2 design. I think this is the best idea between the 6:2/14:2 Keeping the 4 Aux, 8 channel not 6 in a 2U not 4U like the 14:2 could be highly used without extension panels.
So adding them would be really cool. Could you make the select extension button(s) remote override for the obvious quick selection via midi controller?
I don't want to add any requests much as I've kind of done that in my uploaded images but, quick performance related, the HPF/Gate knobs or buttons are useful tools although there are a few ways to add these effects so no worries.
I'm up for more CV's if possible.
Great work and thanks for taking the time and effort
Hello! I'm curious if there some people want CV mixer as much as I do...
Ok cool, you do what you can, look forward to seeing the extension panels. Is DJMaytag, ok with this.. Having 4 Aux in a smaller unit is cool like.Murf wrote: ↑30 Jul 2023All of it is remote-able, as long as I set then up in the code. I think there is a limit of about 200 though, so I might not be able to cover everything especially if I extend to more controls for things like effects etc.Arpeg wrote: ↑30 Jul 2023
Yes, 'many ways to skin a Cat' Sorry for the random image drop but the purpose was to prompt ideas only. Some live performance related and Front panel only I guess as my 1U and 3U images would be CV jam packed on the rear.
I did a 1U as you toyed with the idea and loaded it up with possible useful options per channel.
I like your 8:2 design. I think this is the best idea between the 6:2/14:2 Keeping the 4 Aux, 8 channel not 6 in a 2U not 4U like the 14:2 could be highly used without extension panels.
So adding them would be really cool. Could you make the select extension button(s) remote override for the obvious quick selection via midi controller?
I don't want to add any requests much as I've kind of done that in my uploaded images but, quick performance related, the HPF/Gate knobs or buttons are useful tools although there are a few ways to add these effects so no worries.
I'm up for more CV's if possible.
Great work and thanks for taking the time and effort
Murf
https://www.reasonstudios.com/shop/rack ... volt-sl-1/_andreypetr_ wrote: ↑30 Jul 2023Hello! I'm curious if there some people want CV mixer as much as I do...
This is not even closeArpeg wrote: ↑30 Jul 2023https://www.reasonstudios.com/shop/rack ... volt-sl-1/_andreypetr_ wrote: ↑30 Jul 2023
Hello! I'm curious if there some people want CV mixer as much as I do...
Not specifically for CV, but Selig Gain was designed to work the same for audio and CV. So there IS a VCA specifically for CV if you don’t mind it combined with a VCA specifically for audio.DJMaytag wrote: ↑30 Jul 2023That and a VCA specifically for CV would be dope._andreypetr_ wrote: ↑30 Jul 2023
Hello! I'm curious if there some people want CV mixer as much as I do...
Yes, I own Gain and love it! But the problem that when I want to set up complicated custom synth with a lot of CV controls, even combinator 2 is not enough. Selig Gain has too much extra knobs and parameters that somehow ends up that RRP runs out of slots for automation.selig wrote: ↑30 Jul 2023Not specifically for CV, but Selig Gain was designed to work the same for audio and CV. So there IS a VCA specifically for CV if you don’t mind it combined with a VCA specifically for audio.
I often use Selig Gain as an automatable CV “depth” control when the back panel CV trim doesn’t cut the mustard. Also useful for CV inversion!
A stereo / mono interleave button on all channels would be a good addition too like on the Cakewalk main stock mixer.selig wrote: ↑30 Aug 2020I toyed with this design on a thread a while back…
The EQ section can be individually switched to filters instead of shelves, four sends per channel, polarity invert on each channel, direct outs for each channel, CV for level/pan/EQ, scribble strips for each channel + returns, and a switchable master insert (and yes, I know it's missing a tape strip on the front panel!):
Well, when I search "VCA" in the Prop Shop, that isn't a result that comes back. Neither of the results come back as very usable VCA options, TBH.selig wrote: ↑30 Jul 2023Not specifically for CV, but Selig Gain was designed to work the same for audio and CV. So there IS a VCA specifically for CV if you don’t mind it combined with a VCA specifically for audio.
I often use Selig Gain as an automatable CV “depth” control when the back panel CV trim doesn’t cut the mustard. Also useful for CV inversion!
Maybe I misunderstood the CV part - do you want a way to run CV through a VCA (Selig Gain does this), or do you want a to CONTROL a VCA with CV?DJMaytag wrote: ↑31 Jul 2023Well, when I search "VCA" in the Prop Shop, that isn't a result that comes back. Neither of the results come back as very usable VCA options, TBH.selig wrote: ↑30 Jul 2023
Not specifically for CV, but Selig Gain was designed to work the same for audio and CV. So there IS a VCA specifically for CV if you don’t mind it combined with a VCA specifically for audio.
I often use Selig Gain as an automatable CV “depth” control when the back panel CV trim doesn’t cut the mustard. Also useful for CV inversion!
I tried to find out what this feature does, to no avail - can you explain it?Creativemind wrote: ↑30 Jul 2023A stereo / mono interleave button on all channels would be a good addition too like on the Cakewalk main stock mixer.
It's just what it's called in Cakewalk. It's a stereo on / off toggle button, so off makes it mono.selig wrote: ↑01 Aug 2023I tried to find out what this feature does, to no avail - can you explain it?Creativemind wrote: ↑30 Jul 2023A stereo / mono interleave button on all channels would be a good addition too like on the Cakewalk main stock mixer.
“Interleave” in the context of stereo is a file format where the two channels of a stereo file appear as one (interleaved). This can’t be what you’re explaining here, right?
The same thing is accomplished in Reason with the width knob in the SSL. The only thing is that the resulting audio becomes a dual mono signal, not a single mono signal.Creativemind wrote: ↑02 Aug 2023It's just what it's called in Cakewalk. It's a stereo on / off toggle button, so off makes it mono.
The cool thing about Reason is you can (at least in most cases) quickly turn it back into a single channel mono signal!DJMaytag wrote: ↑02 Aug 2023The same thing is accomplished in Reason with the width knob in the SSL. The only thing is that the resulting audio becomes a dual mono signal, not a single mono signal.Creativemind wrote: ↑02 Aug 2023
It's just what it's called in Cakewalk. It's a stereo on / off toggle button, so off makes it mono.