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UJAM's involvement with the A-List series

Posted: 19 Nov 2015
by joeyluck
So I'm familiar with UJAM having heard of them and used the service in the past. It's a music creation website founded by Peter Gorges, Has Zimmer, and Pharrell Williams. I was just checking out A-List guitarist Pop Chords and saw the note "powered by uJam." This is noted in the description of all of the A-List devices. I didn't notice this before. What does that mean exactly? Is this referring to the same UJAM?

Re: uJam and A-List Guitarist?

Posted: 26 Nov 2015
by craven
any news on this? I wondered the same. Maybe Props use UJAM's proprietary SongCruncher technology (whatever that means) :)


About UJAM: http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases ... 24951.html

UJAM is a music technology platform aiming to become the #1 solution for consumers, services and applications looking for customizable music for music production, videos or other applications on web and mobile. Backed by music industry luminaries such as Oscar-awarded film composer Hans Zimmer and producer Pharrell Williams, UJAM's unique SongCruncher technology makes music easily customizable for professionals and consumers alike, while producing stunning professional results. Started in 2010, the company co-pioneered music production on the web.

Re: uJam and A-List Guitarist?

Posted: 30 Nov 2015
by joeyluck
For those interested, Peter Gorges replied to my question over at Rack Extensionists on Facebook:

  • Hi Joey, thanks! Yes I can: We developed the instrument based on our IDT engine (which is also the basis of instruments like Hydronexius or Emotional Piano, and now our own Virtual Guitarist IRON) in collaboration with Propellerhead. Propellerhead provided guidance on issues like optimal platform compatibility, user expectations and other things - basically "making the instrument a true Propellerhead product".

Re: UJAM and A-List Guitarist?

Posted: 30 Nov 2015
by joeyluck
A video was released just a few days ago for Virtual Guitarist IRON:




This screenshots at 0:09 and 0:13 look somewhat familiar, yeah? :)
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As you can see from my screenshot, I joined the 'light side' on Google lol :geek:

Anyways... Pretty cool stuff. I'm very happy with Pop Chords! Might consider Power chords... Although I get plenty done with the Shreddage ReFill...

Re: UJAM and A-List Guitarist?

Posted: 30 Nov 2015
by joeyluck
It's fun learning about stuff. I feel like I've been living under a rock lol
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Re: UJAM and A-List Guitarist?

Posted: 30 Nov 2015
by joeyluck
So I'm not sure why much of this info isn't on the forefront of the Propellerhead Shop, aside from the small note at the bottom of the product pages 'powered by UJAM.'

I understand Propellerhead manages the product as their own, but knowing about involvement from the outside world is interesting and cool. To know that other big names and unique thinkers are working with the platform whether it's strictly business or they enjoy the platform (or both); it makes our somewhat small world seem bigger.

So what's the channel now I should take for bugging people for instruments like this?
Can we start bugging UJAM that we want a string instrument like Action Strings? ;)

Re: UJAM and A-List Guitarist?

Posted: 30 Nov 2015
by Lov2sing
So is this a whole new item or are you saying they developed the A-List guitarist series? Not to make waves but if they are the developer could we ask them to add items to the RE? Is that forbidden? Personally I like to be able to play single notes to lead into a chord. That gives the picking sound of Nashville.

Re: UJAM and A-List Guitarist?

Posted: 30 Nov 2015
by joeyluck
Lov2sing wrote:So is this a whole new item or are you saying they developed the A-List guitarist series? Not to make waves but if they are the developer could we ask them to add items to the RE? Is that forbidden? Personally I like to be able to play single notes to lead into a chord. That gives the picking sound of Nashville.
They developed A-List in collaboration with Propellerhead. That is a good question though; which was the one I raised about future products... I didn't ask that question. I'll inquire!

Re: UJAM and A-List Guitarist?

Posted: 30 Nov 2015
by DNA Apocalypse
nice! I love the fast disclaimer at the end of the video! rock time!!!

Re: UJAM and A-List Guitarist?

Posted: 30 Nov 2015
by joeyluck
DNA Apocalypse wrote:nice! I love the fast disclaimer at the end of the video! rock time!!!
Classic!

Re: UJAM and A-List Guitarist?

Posted: 17 Dec 2015
by Peter Gorges
Hi everyone, this is Peter from UJAM. I just happened to find this thread here today and wanted to thank you guys for the nice feedback on our stuff. If you have questions or suggestions for us, feel free to post them and I promise to take them seriously. I can't promise to answer all and everything to everybody's satisfaction though ;)

Re: UJAM and A-List Guitarist?

Posted: 17 Dec 2015
by craven
Peter Gorges wrote:Hi everyone, this is Peter from UJAM. I just happened to find this thread here today and wanted to thank you guys for the nice feedback on our stuff. If you have questions or suggestions for us, feel free to post them and I promise to take them seriously. I can't promise to answer all and everything to everybody's satisfaction though ;)
cool, thanks for chiming in. I have one question: is it possible to update the devices to choose the phrase via mouse click in addition to midi? I often use reason on the laptop and it would be nice to just cycle through different strumming styles using mouse controls.

Re: UJAM and A-List Guitarist?

Posted: 17 Dec 2015
by Peter Gorges
Hi craven - a technical limitation prevents us from doing this: a control in a Rack Extension can't be controlled both via MIDI a n d the mouse. As a workaround, you could use Reason's built-in on-screen keyboard (transpose it to cover the phrase octaves). This is actually what I do when I'm travelling!

Re: UJAM and A-List Guitarist?

Posted: 17 Dec 2015
by eusti
Hi Peter,

I see there is a speed button on the Iron device... (0.5x, 1x, 2x)

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Is there a chance we could get this via updates as well?
As well, the demos sound terrific for Iron... Somehow more lively... Is this something it has over the Reason devices?

Thanks!

D.

Re: UJAM and A-List Guitarist?

Posted: 17 Dec 2015
by joeyluck
Peter Gorges wrote:Hi everyone, this is Peter from UJAM. I just happened to find this thread here today and wanted to thank you guys for the nice feedback on our stuff. If you have questions or suggestions for us, feel free to post them and I promise to take them seriously. I can't promise to answer all and everything to everybody's satisfaction though ;)
Thanks so much for chiming in! Great to have you here, Peter!
I had meant to send you a link here the first time I reached out to you. It appears I didn't. Glad you found it!
I'm really digging the interface of Virtual Guitarist Iron (particularly the top half) gives you a reference of where you are on the keyboard...and perhaps might lend itself to mouse selecting phrases as craven suggests? [EDIT] and just saw your previous reply about the current limitation with Rack Extensions and having something selectable via MIDI and mouse. However, still nice to have the reference on the interface :)

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Re: UJAM and A-List Guitarist?

Posted: 17 Dec 2015
by joeyluck
eusti wrote:Hi Peter,

I see there is a speed button on the Iron device... (0.5x, 1x, 2x)

Image

Is there a chance we could get this via updates as well?
As well, the demos sound terrific for Iron... Somehow more lively... Is this something it has over the Reason devices?

Thanks!

D.
On A-List there are phrases for half-time/double-time. Although this interface might make that selection more intuitive.

Re: UJAM and A-List Guitarist?

Posted: 17 Dec 2015
by eusti
joeyluck wrote:
On A-List there are phrases for half-time/double-time. Although this interface might make that selection more intuitive.
Right now we have Normal and Slow in Acoustic and double time in Pop Chords.

D.

Re: UJAM and A-List Guitarist?

Posted: 17 Dec 2015
by joeyluck
eusti wrote:
joeyluck wrote:
On A-List there are phrases for half-time/double-time. Although this interface might make that selection more intuitive.
Right now we have Normal and Slow. We don't have double time, as I understand it.

D.
Gotcha. I'd have to double check Power Chords, but I've been using Pop Chords a lot recently and it includes phrases for "HalfT" and "DoubleT"

Re: UJAM and A-List Guitarist?

Posted: 17 Dec 2015
by eusti
joeyluck wrote:
eusti wrote:
joeyluck wrote:
On A-List there are phrases for half-time/double-time. Although this interface might make that selection more intuitive.
Right now we have Normal and Slow. We don't have double time, as I understand it.

D.
Gotcha. I'd have to double check Power Chords, but I've been using Pop Chords a lot recently and it includes phrases for "HalfT" and "DoubleT"
Double checked and edited my post: There is "slow" for Acoustic, "double time" (and occasionally "Half Time") for Pop Chords and "Hi" for Power Chords.

D.

Re: UJAM and A-List Guitarist?

Posted: 17 Dec 2015
by Neko the Jaguar
Lov2sing wrote:So is this a whole new item or are you saying they developed the A-List guitarist series? Not to make waves but if they are the developer could we ask them to add items to the RE? Is that forbidden? Personally I like to be able to play single notes to lead into a chord. That gives the picking sound of Nashville.
:thumbs_up:

Re: UJAM and A-List Guitarist?

Posted: 17 Dec 2015
by joeyluck
eusti wrote:
joeyluck wrote:
eusti wrote:
joeyluck wrote:
On A-List there are phrases for half-time/double-time. Although this interface might make that selection more intuitive.
Right now we have Normal and Slow. We don't have double time, as I understand it.

D.
Gotcha. I'd have to double check Power Chords, but I've been using Pop Chords a lot recently and it includes phrases for "HalfT" and "DoubleT"
Double checked and edited my post: There is "slow" for Acoustic, "double time" for Pop Chords and "Hi" for Power Chords.

D.
Cool. Well if there are any missing samples, perhaps it could be updated? As I mentioned, Pop Chords has HalfT in addition to the normal and DoubleT phrases.
I suppose one could also automate the BPM...although that might not make things as easy for other instrumentation in a piece.

Re: UJAM and A-List Guitarist?

Posted: 17 Dec 2015
by craven
Peter Gorges wrote:Hi craven - a technical limitation prevents us from doing this: a control in a Rack Extension can't be controlled both via MIDI a n d the mouse. As a workaround, you could use Reason's built-in on-screen keyboard (transpose it to cover the phrase octaves). This is actually what I do when I'm travelling!
Thanks for your fast reply!
yeah, that is also my workaround - do the melody first, then the phrase. I would have preferred to play the melody using the on screen keyboard while changing phrases with the mouse, though. Too bad there are technical limitations, I assumed this would be the issue.

Re: UJAM and A-List Guitarist?

Posted: 17 Dec 2015
by eusti
joeyluck wrote: Cool. Well if there are any missing sampes, perhaps it could be updated? As I mentioned, Pop Chords has HalfT in addition to the normal and DoubleT phrases.
I suppose one could also automate the BPM...although that might not make things as easy for other instrumentation in a piece.
Agreed. I would just love to have all options in all devices... There seem only certain phrases in Pop Chords that have HalfT / DoubleT...

D.

Re: UJAM and A-List Guitarist?

Posted: 17 Dec 2015
by joeyluck
:lightbulb:
eusti wrote:
joeyluck wrote: Cool. Well if there are any missing samples, perhaps it could be updated? As I mentioned, Pop Chords has HalfT in addition to the normal and DoubleT phrases.
I suppose one could also automate the BPM...although that might not make things as easy for other instrumentation in a piece.
Agreed. I would just love to have all options in all devices... There seem only certain phrases in Pop Chords that have HalfT / DoubleT...

D.
Indeed. Curious if the 0.5x and 2x options are selectable for every phrase with VG Iron. And if either Iron or Power Chords has more or less samples than the other. Is Iron's timing selections playing independent phrases, or is it simply adjusting the timing for one phrase? In any case, I think having the timing selection separate works nicely with the workflow and automation.

Re: UJAM and A-List Guitarist?

Posted: 18 Dec 2015
by Peter Gorges
Hi all, I can say this much: We have been considering that as soon as the dust has settled over the launch of VG IRON, we will be looking into updating the Rack Extensions, and some of the stuff you've been asking for above is on the list! Thanks for all the feedback!