Can any Dev make a Sidechain RE

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boobytrap
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I recon we still don't have a proper sidechain or volumeShaper Device. we can use alligator with some attack, but it's not work the same. I believe this is possible.
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24 Apr 2016

Thor->Audio in->CV out
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riemac
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24 Apr 2016

The best way to do this in Reason is with Syncronous. Syncronous has some nice sidechain presets.
But I would like a dedicated volumeshaper RE as well.

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Can you please explain why? Use Thor with Env shaping or additional Pulverizer to smooth the CV with its Env Follower or an Envshaper. Or use a Compressor with adequate settings...
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24 Apr 2016

Synchronous is a volume shaper (since that's basically what all side-chain factory patches do), minus the wave-form display? Or take, ehm... Shape and let it modulate volume? ;)

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Loque wrote:Can you please explain why? Use Thor with Env shaping or additional Pulverizer to smooth the CV with its Env Follower or an Envshaper. Or use a Compressor with adequate settings...
because Curves, I didn't try Synchronous. i'll try that
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Synchronous doesn't retrigger by notes.
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satyr32 wrote:I would say go with CV Mutant
https://shop.propellerheads.se/product/cv-mutant/
I installed demo version just now and now it's gone. even in my PH account page. but authorizer shows installed day is today. this is horrible. I don't need sidechain anymore. who needs.
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boobytrap wrote:Synchronous doesn't retrigger by notes.
Yes, works only with four on the flour beats.

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boobytrap wrote:
Loque wrote:Can you please explain why? Use Thor with Env shaping or additional Pulverizer to smooth the CV with its Env Follower or an Envshaper. Or use a Compressor with adequate settings...
because Curves, I didn't try Synchronous. i'll try that
I agree, curves are the reason you want a solution other than what was mentioned here. Plus the ability to trigger or create different patterns other than four on the floor. Plus you're essentially making a few other effects possible with such a device, so why not add some additional features!
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selig wrote:
boobytrap wrote:
Loque wrote:Can you please explain why? Use Thor with Env shaping or additional Pulverizer to smooth the CV with its Env Follower or an Envshaper. Or use a Compressor with adequate settings...
because Curves, I didn't try Synchronous. i'll try that
I agree, curves are the reason you want a solution other than what was mentioned here. Plus the ability to trigger or create different patterns other than four on the floor. Plus you're essentially making a few other effects possible with such a device, so why not add some additional features!
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Above VST's and FL Gross Beat also work by four on the floor beat. I got it. trigger or create pattern by input midi is a additional feature. but the most important thing is clean big customizable curve or selected adjustable curve patterns. imagine how FL gross beat works. like tall and wide fully adjustable curves also can use for trance gated chords and may ways. for now in reason we have sidechain compression, volume automation(also need to draw curves manually) or volume envelope as options. we can use tricks but we do need a proper device for this.
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boobytrap wrote:I recon we still don't have a proper sidechain or volumeShaper Device. we can use alligator with some attack, but it's not work the same. I believe this is possible.
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boobytrap wrote:Synchronous doesn't retrigger by notes.
Wish it had a retrigger option but it can be done in a combinator and thor :)

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Marc64 wrote:
boobytrap wrote:Synchronous doesn't retrigger by notes.
Wish it had a retrigger option but it can be done in a combinator and thor :)
that's about super serious CV routing.
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boobytrap wrote:
Marc64 wrote:
boobytrap wrote:Synchronous doesn't retrigger by notes.
Wish it had a retrigger option but it can be done in a combinator and thor :)
that's about super serious CV routing.
nah not realy :)

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To sidechain I use Pulsar LFO envelope CV out connected to the level in the mixer. I also would like a simple device control volume directly from painting their own volume curves and input trigger. In the pulsar we can also copy notes the kick in the sequencer. The note length precedes the start of action relase.
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Charlotte is even better for this as you have greater control of the envelope.

Here's Challism's repost of my old PUF example

http://reasontalk.com/viewtopic.php?t=7258355

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Lots of good ways to do this in REASON with a couple of difrent devices...But I think OP is asking for One device to do what he's lookig for. Although those Sidechain devices exist in VST format, he's looking for 1 device in Rack Extension format.


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pjeudy wrote:Lots of good ways to do this in REASON with a couple of difrent devices...But I think OP is asking for One device to do what he's lookig for. Although those Sidechain devices exist in VST format, he's looking for 1 device in Rack Extension format.

I really want something like this with working on clips. Many DAW's can do Automation curves and Fade in\out Curves. I wish PH make this happen in R9
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boobytrap wrote:
pjeudy wrote:Lots of good ways to do this in REASON with a couple of difrent devices...But I think OP is asking for One device to do what he's lookig for. Although those Sidechain devices exist in VST format, he's looking for 1 device in Rack Extension format.

I really want something like this with working on clips. Many DAW's can do Automation curves and Fade in\out Curves. I wish PH make this happen in R9
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This is true. If they add automation curves to the Sequencer, it would be easier / more visible for some folks to work with. You could then draw in what you want where you want, quickly. And if they make it similar to Synchronous where you can select the rate and click and drag to draw multiples that would be very handy. I would think that would be a given when implemented. We need curves in the sequencer for many reasons.

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cant remember who but someone made a reason file with different automation curves that you could copy/paste to taste.


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Marc64 wrote:cant remember who but someone made a reason file with different automation curves that you could copy/paste to taste.


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Good point. Its from that PH guy that made the videos. Cant remember his name atm...
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Marc64 wrote:cant remember who but someone made a reason file with different automation curves that you could copy/paste to taste.


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Cable Guys volume shaper 40% off at jrrshop.

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