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Robotic Bean's TS-1 Time Slider in the Shop!
Posted: 22 Sep 2017
by WongoTheSane
Re: Robotic Bean's TS-1 Time Slider in the Shop!
Posted: 22 Sep 2017
by Zac
This will be so useful! I know we can already shift in ticks but the on/off for comparison will be great.
Maybe not the most exciting RE but I'll def be getting when I can.
Re: Robotic Bean's TS-1 Time Slider in the Shop!
Posted: 22 Sep 2017
by Loque
Isnt it the same as adjusting the offset on the backside of a channel or Combinator?
Re: Robotic Bean's TS-1 Time Slider in the Shop!
Posted: 22 Sep 2017
by buddard
Loque wrote: ↑22 Sep 2017
Isnt it the same as adjusting the offset on the backside of a channel or Combinator?
There are two important differences:
1. The backside offset is in samples, TS-1 in milliseconds. So TS-1 will remain constant if you change samplerate.
2. Negative offset on the backside will only work if the already existing total delay compensation is greater than the offset. Values exceeding the total latency will have no effect.
Re: Robotic Bean's TS-1 Time Slider in the Shop!
Posted: 22 Sep 2017
by mataya
Thank you sir. Finally! Now my Redrum sequence can sound groovy, without going to the sequencer. I wished this was a part of a Redrum seq, also with more velocity values...and it would be perfect.
I guess this will have to do. Buying it right away.
Where is this offset button you've been talking about??
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Re: Robotic Bean's TS-1 Time Slider in the Shop!
Posted: 22 Sep 2017
by mataya
Oh, found it. Like having TS better.
M
Re: Robotic Bean's TS-1 Time Slider in the Shop!
Posted: 22 Sep 2017
by mataya
No, actually I did not find it. Where is that offset? Please.
M
Re: Robotic Bean's TS-1 Time Slider in the Shop!
Posted: 22 Sep 2017
by CaliforniaBurrito
mataya wrote: ↑22 Sep 2017
Now my Redrum sequence can sound groovy, without going to the sequencer.
Hi Mataya! I'm curious about the logic behind this since groove is moving the timing of only certain notes and not just shifting an entire drum sequence. How do you plan on implementing this to create groove?
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Edit: oh I forgot Redrum has separate outs. I haven't used Redrum in a while!
So you would ideally send an off-beat hat, clap or other perc channel to one of these time sliders and shift it. That's pretty cool I guess.
Re: Robotic Bean's TS-1 Time Slider in the Shop!
Posted: 22 Sep 2017
by CaliforniaBurrito
Just bought it! I can think of a few good uses for this! Good idea Mr. Bean!
Re: Robotic Bean's TS-1 Time Slider in the Shop!
Posted: 22 Sep 2017
by Olivier
clever solution !!!!!!
Re: Robotic Bean's TS-1 Time Slider in the Shop!
Posted: 22 Sep 2017
by decibel
will be great for complex drum work
Re: Robotic Bean's TS-1 Time Slider in the Shop!
Posted: 22 Sep 2017
by michal22
More exciting than Reason 10.
Very useful and practical tool. Thanks for this. Bought.
Re: Robotic Bean's TS-1 Time Slider in the Shop!
Posted: 22 Sep 2017
by Loque
michal22 wrote: ↑22 Sep 2017
More exciting than Reason 10.
Very useful and practical tool. Thanks for this. Bought.
In 10.5 they add this feature into the sequencer
Re: Robotic Bean's TS-1 Time Slider in the Shop!
Posted: 22 Sep 2017
by buddard
mataya wrote: ↑22 Sep 2017
No, actually I did not find it. Where is that offset? Please.
It's on the rear panel of Mix Channels and Audio Track if you show the programmer:
Re: Robotic Bean's TS-1 Time Slider in the Shop!
Posted: 22 Sep 2017
by Exowildebeest
Smart use of the delay compensation feature
Re: Robotic Bean's TS-1 Time Slider in the Shop!
Posted: 22 Sep 2017
by mataya
CaliforniaBurrito wrote: ↑22 Sep 2017
mataya wrote: ↑22 Sep 2017
Now my Redrum sequence can sound groovy, without going to the sequencer.
Hi Mataya! I'm curious about the logic behind this since groove is moving the timing of only certain notes and not just shifting an entire drum sequence. How do you plan on implementing this to create groove?
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Edit: oh I forgot Redrum has separate outs. I haven't used Redrum in a while!
So you would ideally send an off-beat hat, clap or other perc channel to one of these time sliders and shift it. That's pretty cool I guess.
That's right. You make a combinator with a mixer, redrum and 10 TS and connect it all. Now you can shift individual sounds that are playing from the Redrum's own sequencer. I like that a lot, because I love to use Reason without the main sequencer as much as I can. Well, it fits my style of music and music making.
Re: Robotic Bean's TS-1 Time Slider in the Shop!
Posted: 22 Sep 2017
by CaliforniaBurrito
mataya wrote: ↑22 Sep 2017
That's right. You make a combinator with a mixer, redrum and 10 TS and connect it all. Now you can shift individual sounds that are playing from the Redrum's own sequencer. I like that a lot, because I love to use Reason without the main sequencer as much as I can. Well, it fits my style of music and music making.
It fits my style too.
The nudging factor is what kept me away from using built-in sequencers actually. This is a huge game changer for me. Just thought of nudging an ABL3 sequence too! Oh my!
Re: Robotic Bean's TS-1 Time Slider in the Shop!
Posted: 22 Sep 2017
by aeox
I really want this but I feel like 25 dollars is way overpriced. It should be 9 dollars off sale.
Re: Robotic Bean's TS-1 Time Slider in the Shop!
Posted: 22 Sep 2017
by CaliforniaBurrito
aeox wrote: ↑22 Sep 2017
I really want this but I feel like 25 dollars is way overpriced. It should be 9 dollars off sale.
It is a small investment to change the feel of your music.
You can make sounds pop and have drums on point but having the FEEL right takes them so much further! I'm sitting here listening to this nudged ABL3 sequence and a kick in awe of how hypnotic this is!
Re: Robotic Bean's TS-1 Time Slider in the Shop!
Posted: 22 Sep 2017
by buddard
mataya wrote: ↑22 Sep 2017
That's right. You make a combinator with a mixer, redrum and 10 TS and connect it all. Now you can shift individual sounds that are playing from the Redrum's own sequencer. I like that a lot, because I love to use Reason without the main sequencer as much as I can. Well, it fits my style of music and music making.
Just be aware that negative slide values might not work correctly in that setup. Negative slide is subject to the same limitations as the delay compensation in Reason (because we're actually using that feature), so it won't work inside instrument combis, and not when connected to a rack mixer either. But if you connect each Redrum output to an SSL mixer channel instead, you can have negative slide on them, too!
Re: Robotic Bean's TS-1 Time Slider in the Shop!
Posted: 22 Sep 2017
by aeox
buddard wrote: ↑22 Sep 2017
mataya wrote: ↑22 Sep 2017
That's right. You make a combinator with a mixer, redrum and 10 TS and connect it all. Now you can shift individual sounds that are playing from the Redrum's own sequencer. I like that a lot, because I love to use Reason without the main sequencer as much as I can. Well, it fits my style of music and music making.
Just be aware that negative slide values might not work correctly in that setup. Negative slide is subject to the same limitations as the delay compensation in Reason (because we're actually using that feature), so it won't work inside instrument combis, and not when connected to a rack mixer either. But if you connect each Redrum output to an SSL mixer channel instead, you can have negative slide on them, too!
Edit: Nevermind, got it
Re: Robotic Bean's TS-1 Time Slider in the Shop!
Posted: 22 Sep 2017
by CaliforniaBurrito
buddard wrote: ↑22 Sep 2017
But if you connect each Redrum output to an SSL mixer channel instead, you can have negative slide on them, too!
Good to know. I prefer the SSL channels for easy filtering/mixing anyways.
Re: Robotic Bean's TS-1 Time Slider in the Shop!
Posted: 22 Sep 2017
by Re8et
Downloading trial now
It feels like adjusting a vynil. It's amazing.
Re: Robotic Bean's TS-1 Time Slider in the Shop!
Posted: 22 Sep 2017
by CaliforniaBurrito
aeox wrote: ↑22 Sep 2017
Edit: Nevermind, got it
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Re: Robotic Bean's TS-1 Time Slider in the Shop!
Posted: 22 Sep 2017
by mataya
buddard wrote: ↑22 Sep 2017
mataya wrote: ↑22 Sep 2017
That's right. You make a combinator with a mixer, redrum and 10 TS and connect it all. Now you can shift individual sounds that are playing from the Redrum's own sequencer. I like that a lot, because I love to use Reason without the main sequencer as much as I can. Well, it fits my style of music and music making.
Just be aware that negative slide values might not work correctly in that setup. Negative slide is subject to the same limitations as the delay compensation in Reason (because we're actually using that feature), so it won't work inside instrument combis, and not when connected to a rack mixer either. But if you connect each Redrum output to an SSL mixer channel instead, you can have negative slide on them, too!
Oh ok. I did not noticed it actually. I've made a little combinator setup which is great because you can save it and recall it, but did not noticed that negative values didn't have any effect on those channels. I've heard the positive values making it groovy.
Still a great device. I actually wanted to see a device that can load one sample, have asequencer like a redrum, but with more features...like more velocity values, shift left to right, reverse and maybe a few more surprises.
Thanks
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