Which Stock Synth in reason you enjoy most designing sounds from scratch?

[drloop]

Thor

[plaamook]

I’m curious why people list Grain.
It’s a sampler, right?

It's both.... a sampler and a synth. Super versatile!

But it’s basis is sample manipulation. Agreed you can make some pretty synthetic sounding sounds w it but what makes it a synth?

[BRIGGS]

It's both.... a sampler and a synth. Super versatile!

But it’s basis is sample manipulation. Agreed you can make some pretty synthetic sounding sounds w it but what makes it a synth?

the grain oscillator + second oscillator

[DaveyG]

but what makes it a synth?

The granular synthesis bit.

[BRIGGS]

but what makes it a synth?

The granular synthesis bit.

[plaamook]

but what makes it a synth?

The granular synthesis bit.

Hmm. Probably just semantics but ok.

In that case, Grain is my fav. Absolute core of what I’m doing these days.

[plaamook]

In fact, thinking back to the days without Grain...man that was painful. Skimming through samples blind on nnxt to bounce it down few octaves to edit the audio.
Sends me shivers.

How the hell I didn’t jump ship before that is a mystery.

[WOO]

Thor

[drloop]

Thor

Thor saying Thinkingmachine, my bands name! Gotta luv Thor!

[Propellerhands]

My go to synth in Reason always has been Subtractor. At least 80 percent of sounds that I make were done using this synth, from plucks and bass to pads and bells. Very versatile and easy to understand and especially, very quick workflow.

Like most Reason synths, it sounds weak as standalone, two oscilator synth, even with FXs, so I usually layer a couple or three subtractors to get that punchier/wider/fuller sound.

Malstrom on the other hand, is pretty weird for my liking. And Europa, is like all synths combined into one and most advanced synth. Would be great is developers updated their older synths. It's no longer 2005.

Thor

Thor saying Thinkingmachine, my bands name! Gotta luv Thor!

DOPE!

[The_G]

Europa. It's just so much fun.

[Reasonable man]

Europa. It's just so much fun.

Agree. Its much more fun with a midi controller.
Thor's step sequencer is also fun . If anyone has a nektar panorama theyill know that thor's step sequencer is automatically mapped out to the buttons below the faders in two parts. Its fantastic for putting in live sequences ,adding notes then taking them out, The active steps have Led button lights and the non active notes dont so its like having an actual live looping step sequencer for gig type performances. For me its a reason to always have an instance of thor in tracks.

[dvdrtldg]

Grain > Europa > Thor > Subtractor > Malstrom

Malstrom is a neat design and seems full of possibilities, but I can never get it to sound very good

[EnochLight]

First Grain, then Europa for me! Those are pretty much my Reason staples since they came out.

[jlgrimes]

I’m curious why people list Grain.
It’s a sampler, right?

Very much a synth. An unconventional one but the way it mangles samples it's a synth.

[jlgrimes]

Which Stock Synth in reason you enjoy most designing sounds from scratch? and any reason why would be helpful thanks

Subtractor actually is a great synth for basic analog type stuff. Fast sound design. Great beginner synth for building stuff from scratch.

Europa for more modern wavetable stuff and a nice synth that's more advanced than Subtractor but still pretty easy to use. I would pick that second.

Malstrom also is nice when experimenting with Graintables.

Thor is more for advanced sound design. It has a fairly high learning curve. Complex is also advanced. They are more for hardcore sound designers.

Monotone is great for analog bass.

[plaamook]

I’m curious why people list Grain.
It’s a sampler, right?

Very much a synth. An unconventional one but the way it mangles samples it's a synth.

I still think it’s a word game. I’ve been using samplers to mangle samples w no problem thus far. Reaktor has no shortage of sample mangling samplers.
Further, it’ll play a straight sample loop and I often use Grain for exactly that. Can’t do that in a Maelström.

I don’t mind. Call it what you like. I just figured the basis of a synth was the modulation of rudimentary sound wave that are generated by the thing itself and a sampler, however complex, plays samples. So now I record samples and play them through a synth. Sometimes. Fair enough.

[guitfnky]

not really semantics to call Grain a synthesizer. the definition of a synthesizer is incredibly broad:

DICTIONARY
syn·the·siz·er
/ˈsinTHəˌsīzər/
noun
an electronic musical instrument, typically operated by a keyboard, producing a wide variety of sounds by generating and combining signals of different frequencies.

[plaamook]

not really semantics to call Grain a synthesizer. the definition of a synthesizer is incredibly broad:

DICTIONARY
syn·the·siz·er
/ˈsinTHəˌsīzər/
noun
an electronic musical instrument, typically operated by a keyboard, producing a wide variety of sounds by generating and combining signals of different frequencies.

Fine by me. So long as it kicks out the jams, I'm in!

[guitfnky]

not really semantics to call Grain a synthesizer. the definition of a synthesizer is incredibly broad:

DICTIONARY
syn·the·siz·er
/ˈsinTHəˌsīzər/
noun
an electronic musical instrument, typically operated by a keyboard, producing a wide variety of sounds by generating and combining signals of different frequencies.

Fine by me. So long as it kicks out the jams, I'm in!

yessss!

I don’t think I’ve ever even opened Grain without finding something that’s interesting. my last song, Ioaded the main guitar riff into Grain, then made it into this bizarre washy choir, with an alien skittering around on top. so weird, and it absolutely made the part.

[plaamook]

Fine by me. So long as it kicks out the jams, I'm in!

yessss!

I don’t think I’ve ever even opened Grain without finding something that’s interesting. my last song, Ioaded the main guitar riff into Grain, then made it into this bizarre washy choir, with an alien skittering around on top. so weird, and it absolutely made the part.

Yeah you can go really deep into it too. Bounce and reprocess things, ya ya ya.
Recent album was littered with it. Next one's likely to be at this ponit as well.