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Tincture
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19 Jun 2015

I don't know which of the props are having to do this but I feel a bit sorry for them. If not right now then definitely in 5, 10...30 weeks time! I mean there are a lot of genres out there but in 6 months time you're gonna be looking at "let us hear your speed-core-country-breakbeats y'all!"

I think I probably will end up dropping quite a bit of incomplete stuff when I get R8 (or more likely R9) but this weekly email uplift is going to be hard to keep going, right?

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19 Jun 2015

Or running in loops of *hip* genres. ;) Well, the new one is basically about tempo, so that could be anything. Next one might be only about a certain scale. :P

I know some people find them annoying (newsletters). I tried Discover only once so far, might do more in the future, but for now I don't see a reason to use it.

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19 Jun 2015

I really don't have a problem with the emails. IMO it's always good to hear from the developers of my hobby. I just wonder how long they can keep these weekly emails up without becoming a bit desperate for genres or reasons to post?

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19 Jun 2015

Not sure how long they see the need for promotions like this and repeating themselves along the way. In the long run, you could be down to only *special* promotions e.g. remix contests etc.

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19 Jun 2015

I only posted because it's been every week without fail (as far as I remember; my memory not being a strong point) so far ... tough to keep up... but yeah if they adjust the frequency then my post becomes a lot less relevant ;)

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19 Jun 2015

It is now speedweek, apparently. We've all been waiting for speedweek!

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19 Jun 2015

I think we have a long way to go.

http://techno.org/electronic-music-guide/

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19 Jun 2015

:D Yeah they can keep it up for a while.


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20 Jun 2015

jfrichards, is there an updated version of this? Cause this map ends with the 2000's and since then much has happend, think about dubstep and trap and electro swing and whatnot...
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20 Jun 2015

Gaja wrote:jfrichards, is there an updated version of this? Cause this map ends with the 2000's and since then much has happend, think about dubstep and trap and electro swing and whatnot...
 Looks like no.  techno.org has morphed into http://www.di.fm

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20 Jun 2015

I'm nothing sure there's much merit to this point of view. When James Bernard did 52 Weeks of Reason, I don't recall a single complaint that he was watering down the impact of each video because the time interval between was too small. As far as the frequency of email messages, Propellerhead's strategy for promoting their new collaboration model is aimed at the person who owns an iPhone, has installed Take and/or Figure, and frequently has moments to be creative on the fly, such as on the train or during a lunch break. For that person, the loops sent by email are very appealing. So if you really feel sympathetic to the person who's responsible for coordinating the weekly blasts, it's misplaced. Or it could be that this thread is another passive aggressive criticism of Propellerhead's new corporate strategy. If that's true, may I suggest listening to "Love Don't Live Here Anymore " by Rose Royce? It's very therapeutic.

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20 Jun 2015

Tincture wrote:I don't know which of the props are having to do this but I feel a bit sorry for them. If not right now then definitely in 5, 10...30 weeks time! I mean there are a lot of genres out there but in 6 months time you're gonna be looking at "let us hear your speed-core-country-breakbeats y'all!"

I think I probably will end up dropping quite a bit of incomplete stuff when I get R8 (or more likely R9) but this weekly email uplift is going to be hard to keep going, right?
they should give us Kits , instruments and FX combinators (also some RE patch's to bring interest for RE) that are doing stuff you need for that genre IMO , I mean I'm not going to say tey wrong in doing what they do but I am scared to see Madonna , Jay-z and kanyé west poping on ReasonTalk saying they will teach us creativity LOL ....... :s0225:
 
PS: when is the dub week coming ?
Somebody could use that Stream of Interneter's and make tiny must have refill's doing specific things needed for that genre .
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20 Jun 2015

I think there probably was a bit of mixed reasons for posting; some genuine concern that it could be quite a task to keep this interesting on a weekly basis; and yes, quite probably a bit of a back-handed swipe at the marketing strategy. Sorry that you see me as a tragic character... I'm hoping this stage of my life changes soon.

one thing to come of this is that I took a closer look at who's dropping stuff to discover and there were some things I'd have a go at if I had R8. I think I will get more out of discover than I'd imagined.
KEVMOVE02 wrote:I'm nothing sure there's much merit to this point of view. When James Bernard did 52 Weeks of Reason, I don't recall a single complaint that he was watering down the impact of each video because the time interval between was too small. As far as the frequency of email messages, Propellerhead's strategy for promoting their new collaboration model is aimed at the person who owns an iPhone, has installed Take and/or Figure, and frequently has moments to be creative on the fly, such as on the train or during a lunch break. For that person, the loops sent by email are very appealing. So if you really feel sympathetic to the person who's responsible for coordinating the weekly blasts, it's misplaced. Or it could be that this thread is another passive aggressive criticism of Propellerhead's new corporate strategy. If that's true, may I suggest listening to "Love Don't Live Here Anymore " by Rose Royce? It's very therapeutic.

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20 Jun 2015

Tincture wrote:...I think I will get more out of discover than I'd imagined...
Discover is a strange twilight creature.  It can be looked at as a giant evolving refill of free-to-use mp3 sound clips from all over the world (all thrown into a big disorganized paper bag - you have to look every day to see what's on top of the pile).  It can be a quick and dirty place to park works in progress for your own listening or for collaborating (privately or publicly).  And it can be extremely frustrating for it's technical limitations and for the relinquishing of financial rights.

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20 Jun 2015

I think too many are looking at Discover outside of its intended purpose. If your major life goal was to get as many people possible to start making music, wherever they might find themselves at any given moment, a smartphone would be the place to start. The iPhone is the platform of choice because it does music creation better than Android, from both a technical and artistic point of view. Overshadowing all of this is the potential to reach s whole new market of music makers who are not interested in high end workstations. As much as we enjoy the fuss, companies fighting over the same pool of customers is not profitable. Long term sustainability requires finding and keeping lifetime customers. Discover (or something like it) is there way forward.

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20 Jun 2015

KEVMOVE02 wrote:I think too many are looking at Discover outside of its intended purpose...
Hey Kev, I appreciate your points, but I was responding to Zac about how Zac might be seeing Discover.  I'm not positive, but I don't think Zac is waiting at the shopping mall for his mum to pick him up in the suv and has a new song idea in his head and an iPhone stuck on his ear.  What I'm raising is the ways that Zac and other forum members might use Discover, as I am seeing for myself.  I think it's good to look at using it beyond Ernst's vision, especially as a marketing snare, because we already bought Reason.  Although I agree with you that one has to remember how Ernst is hoping it pans out.  There is serious competition out there for musicians with iPhones (GarageBand, Korg Gadget, IKMultimedia, etc), so I wish him luck.

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20 Jun 2015

Yes, left home at 18, now 43 and no iPhone.

Have these emails highlighted guitar based stuff yet? I haven't really been able to produce a full guitar song that I'm fully happy with yet, maybe 'All Out To Sea' but nothing heavy. It can be so time consuming for me to get guitar based songs sounding right so I think I would probably drop a lot of riffs to discover to hear what others do with them. I do churn out new ones on an almost daily basis. Might also lead to a free rex based refill?

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20 Jun 2015

Tincture wrote:...Have these emails highlighted guitar based stuff yet?...
Don't think so, but given the large number of decent acoustic guitar/vocal pieces uploaded into Discover from Take, there very well could be.

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20 Jun 2015

Gaja wrote:jfrichards, is there an updated version of this? Cause this map ends with the 2000's and since then much has happend, think about dubstep and trap and electro swing and whatnot...
It's said that Ishkur is working on it (for years now)...

Best source for updates on this seems to be: https://twitter.com/IshkursEMGuide

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20 Jun 2015

I keep asking PH when is Aboriginal throat singing week. No answer as of yet.
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20 Jun 2015

Gaja wrote:jfrichards, is there an updated version of this? Cause this map ends with the 2000's and since then much has happend, think about dubstep and trap and electro swing and whatnot...
As I've matured I've got into some new genres.

Halfway House, Hip-Replacement, Belly Flop, Viagra Hardcore, Senile Trance, Amnesic Trance, Slap*.  Man, as each day passes I enter into new realm of creativity.


* A slobbery form of Rap caused by loose dentures.

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21 Jun 2015

TBH, I'm kinda feeling bad lately about posting a few negative things about them "spamming" us. I think it's great that they are active and trying to promote things. They want this aspect of reason to be successful. I don't use it yet, but I'm keeping my eyes on it.

Keep going props, I think you are moving in the right direction.

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21 Jun 2015

Last Alternative wrote:I keep asking PH when is Aboriginal throat singing week. No answer as of yet.
Now that would be a great synth resonance filter:  Throat Singer - with all the harmonics of the fantastic Himalyan-Siberian throat singers (especially if you could sing into it)!  Add CV modulations from Synchronous or Shape and a little Convolution and Ed Hydlide would be in ambient heaven (next to me).

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21 Jun 2015

Last Alternative wrote:I keep asking PH when is Aboriginal throat singing week. No answer as of yet.
Here's a snippet, if you're interested


Throat singing week is getting delayed, because first obviously is akkordeon week.
Cheers!
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