Reason updates (11.3.7 / 11.3.8) and Reason+

[MrFigg]

Maybe they'll add R+ to the Rewards section. I mean why not combine the two best ideas they've had to date?

[EnochLight]

I should put the passion into the tunes is what you would normally tell someone.

If people in this thread can take anything away from it, I should hope that it is this alone.

[Auryn]

As someone who works in (and hates) marketing. My boss would have jizzed if I proposed this gross tactic! lol

oh, I'm sorry about the "kill yourself" thing, I hope you find a more wholesome and fulfilling career in the future

[earwig83]

I should put the passion into the tunes is what you would normally tell someone.

If people in this thread can take anything away from it, I should hope that it is this alone.

This is where everyone on either side of the line can agree at least!

[earwig83]

As someone who works in (and hates) marketing. My boss would have jizzed if I proposed this gross tactic! lol

oh, I'm sorry about the "kill yourself" thing, I hope you find a more wholesome and fulfilling career in the future

Haha man's got to eat and my music and art are commercially unviable. I assume we are referring to the Bill Hicks bit? I used that sample in a random track many moons ago. Maybe reason is going for that indignant reason user dollar. hahahah

[Aosta]

What happens if I do the sub, then after a year, decide it’s not for me.
What am I left with?
Now I’m in Reason 10, would everything disappear?
Am I left with what I had in Jan 21?
Would I be frozen at what I have on Jan 2022?

I'd assume that everything would be null and void.
All RE's you used with R+ would vanish and any tracks you made would be unopenable because they were made with a later version of Reason.

[Billy+]

I think there is a couple of options missing from the pole.

Would you prefer
A punch in the face (but you can see it coming)
B kick in the balls (from behind)

Also maybe

Will you buy your V12 license when available.

[earwig83]

How come I still have to use Reason 11 in low res on my iMac to prevent jumpy video issues? Low res hurts my eyes, thusly killing my workflow and interest in their product. And it’s been years with no fix..

Because they have no respect for anyone, including themselves.

[earwig83]

Reason+ is worth a try just for Companion!

It's such a breath of fresh air compared to Authorizer. You can choose to install and uninstall individual REs directly from Companion. There are currently 2 sync all options; one for all of the Reason+/Reason Studios REs and a separate one for all of your other REs. It's still not a completely customizable sync all, but it is already so much better, and I think one day we may see more options for that.

It also sorts uninstalled REs to the top of the list
The realtime search is super snappy (when browsing packs or your REs).

The sound packs are really great too. I think this is worth checking out, even if you are a user who owns everything already, just to checkout Companion and the packs.

20 a month so I can install my REs with a nicer GUI? Authorizer implementation was always an insult to anyone with a UX/UI brian.

[Auryn]

oh, I'm sorry about the "kill yourself" thing, I hope you find a more wholesome and fulfilling career in the future

Haha man's got to eat and my music and art are commercially unviable. I assume we are referring to the Bill Hicks bit? I used that sample in a random track many moons ago. Maybe reason is going for that indignant reason user dollar. hahahah

that's the one yeah, LOL

you know they say Bill died of cancer but actually he was murdered by Mc Hammer and Vanilla Ice

[softska]

Actually just found out pretty much most of my propellerhead made no longer can be added to ignition key (must be online). Those used to be able to live on ignition key just fine including A-List ones that were discontinued.

Am pretty mad actually, wish I never gave them money to Suite (especially since I was using it as upgrade path when I already own half of their stuff before I bought the suite that worked perfectly fine offline). I am mostly on computer auth, but losing function I used from time to time since 6.5 still hurts

I use the ignition key with Reason Suite. Not a fan of machine activation personally. I don't know why its not letting you add REs to your dongle.

All my 3rd party RE works off the ignition key, but if I'm offline the Reason RE wont' show.

If it works for you I hope it's just a few emails with support, hope you're right.

[sprinkles__]

i guess hes not only a mobile phone ceo guy and he makes art too... cool guy

VC CEO will crash this company then tiptoe off into another CEO role like nothing happened. It's what they do. They never pay for their mistakes but operate in a totally different world in which getting it totally wrong has zero consequences for them personally.

[hfw]

They literally planned a car crash marketing campaign into your point updates... that should be enough to end them. such a crass and shady scheme.

They took you all for kids. what a slap in the face. Oh, and they arent just samples..... they are presets as well..... LOL. god they looked so beaten by then, just trying to get the stream over, making weird 16 bar loops and telling us how to use sample packs... wtf. thats what upwards of thousands of pounds gets me after all this time. no probs! haha

[TrueStory]

The livestream chat shows what people really want no matter how they tried to ignore it. VST 3 support and internal midi. A new piano roll with scale support would be nice too. Reason has got to be the only DAW where you can't even load up a basic scale on the piano roll. Reason Studios needs to focus more on core upgrades instead of new synths and thousands of sounds not everyone will use.

I take it Reason + users will now have first dibs on all new players and effect modules while Suite owners will have to pay. What happens when you cancel your subscription? You revert back to whatever you had before the subscription and lose all the new sounds and upgrades you've installed?

[Aosta]

i guess hes not only a mobile phone ceo guy and he makes art too... cool guy

VC CEO will crash this company then tiptoe off into another CEO role like nothing happened. It's what they do. They never pay for their mistakes but operate in a totally different world in which getting it totally wrong has zero consequences for them personally.

This is the whole reason that CEO was brought in by investors, he had the subscription model planned 18 months ago and now it's done he will fade into the background.

[hfw]

i guess hes not only a mobile phone ceo guy and he makes art too... cool guy

VC CEO will crash this company then tiptoe off into another CEO role like nothing happened. It's what they do. They never pay for their mistakes but operate in a totally different world in which getting it totally wrong has zero consequences for them personally.

Haha, that pic sums it up nicely... that other dude too, the "musician" who was brought in to oversee the sub roll out, guy on here earlier. all cool artist types for sure.

I really enjoyed being treated like a mug for the hour odd length of that stream haha!

[EdwardKiy]

I should put the passion into the tunes is what you would normally tell someone.

If people in this thread can take anything away from it, I should hope that it is this alone.

That or the fact RS have pissed on their core users once again by saying they had a team of people working on this for the past year instead of focusing on the actual product. They didn't even plan on handling their core product despite what was going on at the forum. In fact, it seems they are going out of their way to display exactly how few f#$%s they give about user feedback. Even if they add two "+ +" in front of Reason, it still won't be able to go full screen, like my free web browser has been able to for what? 10 years? 15?

R12, last chance.

[avasopht]

I can see it now.

April 7th, 2050: Beloved grandfather regrets quitting reason on his deathbed after the feared discontinuation of full Reason licenses never happened.

His son, Gary says "[his father] was never the same after his best mate came round to show off all the new features he was using on his copy of Reason.

"You could see he was torn between his want to join in on the fun with all the other Reason heads, but also wanting to stand by his baseless speculation of full license discontinuation that, after 10 years of Reason+ having had no impact on it, was starting to look really sad and hopeless."

Expert psychologists say cases of Premature Speculation are on the rise, and suggest refraining from too much speculative mental masturbation as that greatly increases your chances of catching the disease.

[Billy+]

The livestream chat shows what people really want no matter how they tried to ignore it. VST 3 support and internal midi. A new piano roll with scale support would be nice too. Reason has got to be the only DAW where you can't even load up a basic scale on the piano roll. Reason Studios needs to focus more on core upgrades instead of new synths and thousands of sounds not everyone will use.

I take it Reason + users will now have first dibs on all new players and effect modules while Suite owners will have to pay. What happens when you cancel your subscription? You revert back to whatever you had before the subscription and lose all the new sounds and upgrades you've installed?

The live stream showed nothing that we didn't already know. 3 men with a title starting with C asked two people to deal with it and the rest of us to suck it! We know what this business needs New cash.

[miscend]

That's all fine but I take offense in how they worded it - as if the "acceptance of RRP is huge, 40% of the user base, wowzers!" - because all it potentially means is that they inflated that number through the free giveaway. I hope that makes sense.

Traditionally before Reason had audio tracks alot of people used it as a rewire slave in other daws. There was even a lite version of Reason that came with Pro Tools. RRP brings that back in a more convenient way because you don't have to run two DAWs concurrently now. If business revenue was up last year as hinted in a tweet by the CEO, presumably this was because of more people upgrading or buying Reason, then you can make a solid case for the overall acceptance of RRP.

Personally I would count people that used the Novation/Plugin Boutique freebie as Reason users. Spotify do the same thing - they count all users including free tiers when talking numbers. But there is definitely potential for inflating numbers in the absence of any usage data being given.

[Gothi]

Pheew! What an evening. This summer, I upgraded my abandoned Reason 6.5 to 11 Suite because I had such a modular fever. Spent about 1300 Euro in all and loved it more than ever. Being unaware of the latest development, I went to the Reason Studios page this noon and completely panicked, when it seemed like I could not get to the normal shopping pages without subscribing (I did not look to the bottom of the page then). Having immediate nightmares of losing all my licences because I just upgraded from within Reason, I got my mac off the net asap, checked that my R11 worked as is, and the panick ceased enough for me to figure out what is was all about. I read and few KVR posts and then a good part of this thread and was enraged at first: RS seemed to have plans to take my Dawling and all its REs off-spring as hostages and extort me for the rest of my life. RAGNAROK!!!
Well...after checking some links from the more calm posters, I found my shop again, and the explanations given by RS as to what this is about; just an additional option. I can still buy an R12 upgrade without monthly fees. What a relief, especially because I cannot really see why I would want to upgrade, anyway. And the point: I am both relieved and exhausted now. I need a spliff, some chilly ambient and sleep. But thanks for the ride, guys and gals. If I go up in red flames, you get me even higher, and when I fall to the ground again, you see that I land as softly as a feather. At the end of this day, it seems like the world will be here tomorrow again.
Hail Reason, the only music software that ever got me.

[miscend]

I use the ignition key with Reason Suite. Not a fan of machine activation personally. I don't know why its not letting you add REs to your dongle.

All my 3rd party RE works off the ignition key, but if I'm offline the Reason RE wont' show.

If it works for you I hope it's just a few emails with support, hope you're right.

Yes I would hit support with an email. Did you try to do a sync all and update all licences? And make sure you don't have any RE demos installed.

[Auryn]

i guess hes not only a mobile phone ceo guy and he makes art too... cool guy

VC CEO will crash this company then tiptoe off into another CEO role like nothing happened. It's what they do. They never pay for their mistakes but operate in a totally different world in which getting it totally wrong has zero consequences for them personally.

it's a pic of Tony Blair with a guitar...?

[miscend]

I can see it now.

April 7th, 2050: Beloved grandfather regrets quitting reason on his deathbed after the feared discontinuation of full Reason licenses never happened.

His son, Gary says "[his father] was never the same after his best mate came round to show off all the new features he was using on his copy of Reason.

"You could see he was torn between his want to join in on the fun with all the other Reason heads, but also wanting to stand by his baseless speculation of full license discontinuation that, after 10 years of Reason+ having had no impact on it, was starting to look really sad and hopeless."

Expert psychologists say cases of Premature Speculation are on the rise, and suggest refraining from too much speculative mental masturbation as that greatly increases your chances of catching the disease.

Lol

[DecafDreams]

VC CEO will crash this company then tiptoe off into another CEO role like nothing happened. It's what they do. They never pay for their mistakes but operate in a totally different world in which getting it totally wrong has zero consequences for them personally.

it's a pic of Tony Blair with a guitar...?

Making the point that these people don't operate in the same world as we do.